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Old 10-06-2016, 12:57 PM
 
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This is NOT a good thing if you recall how Facebook was exposed for manipulating trending stories to suit their own political views.

Facebook's Sneaky Plan to Rule Over America's Internet Is Scary as Hell

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Facebook’s Free Basics program creates a walled off internet for poor people. Except it doesn’t actually give its low income users free access to the internet. Free Basics gives people access to Facebook’s version of the internet.
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Old 10-06-2016, 01:05 PM
 
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So, if they want the whole internet, they can pay for it like everyone else.


If what they want is free internet, then what they're going to get is whatever someone is willing to give them for free.


This does not eliminate the ability of any other company, organization, or person to offer a competing free service without any limitations.


If someone doesn't want to use the Facebook free internet, they don't have to.
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Old 10-06-2016, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
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This is NOT a good thing if you recall how Facebook was exposed for manipulating trending stories to suit their own political views.

Facebook's Sneaky Plan to Rule Over America's Internet Is Scary as Hell
If you provide free connectivity with some sites or content blocked people will take the free connectivity and find a way around the blocks.
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Old 10-06-2016, 01:13 PM
 
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^^So then censorship is good?^^
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Old 10-06-2016, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
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^^So then censorship is good?^^
You seem to not understand what censorship is.
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Old 10-06-2016, 01:21 PM
 
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^^So then censorship is good?^^
How is it censorship? No one has to use the service if they don't want to.


Facebook is not required to provide free anything to anybody. They are providing a specific limited service for free. People can use it or not as they choose. They can still get "free" (taxpayer-funded) internet at the library. Or they can find free WiFi somewhere. Or they can pay for whatever service they want just like the rest of us.
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Old 10-06-2016, 01:50 PM
 
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Here is a supporting article that further explains the problems of it all:

All the Reasons People Are So Pissed About Facebook

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It is our belief that Facebook is improperly defining net neutrality in public statements and building a walled garden in which the world’s poorest people will only be able to access a limited set of insecure websites and services.
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But there’s legitimate concern that allowing a major US multinational corporation to train people to use its tailored version of the internet will engender a kind of digital neocolonialism that will hurt domestic innovation and do more to lock people into using Facebook and its affiliate services than anything else.
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Old 10-06-2016, 01:54 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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So it's basically just a logon to facebook and a few affiliates. No thanks. I'm sure anything like a gun site won't be and affiliate


Who cares, I work for an ISP and get it all free.
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Old 10-06-2016, 02:01 PM
 
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So it's basically just a logon to facebook and a few affiliates. No thanks. I'm sure anything like a gun site won't be and affiliate


Who cares, I work for an ISP and get it all free.
Yeah but your ISP is a for profit service and they don't control the content, thats the difference.

Would you sign up for free cable that only had government sanctioned "news" shows so you could have a few other cable channels that were likely also skewed to a certain viewpoint?
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Old 10-06-2016, 02:10 PM
 
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The point is, no one has to sign up for it if they don't want the content on offer.


There doesn't seem to be any indication that the Facebook Internet Police will go door to door forcing people to sign up for their service. They are offering something for free. It has some strings attached. People can use it or not as they choose.


Anyone who is concerned about the free internet offered by Facebook can start their own free internet company and run it any way they want.
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