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The money goes to charity, do you think it would change anything if they refused the funding. We have been providing Saudi Arabia with military arms for decades, even after their involvement in 9/11. We have many relationships with foreign countries that support terror such as Pakistan, pulling our support takes away any leverage.
The world is complicated, if we were to divorce our county from anyone that supported terror it would work against us in the end.
So here we have two countries that support covert terror and you are criticizing the Clinton Foundation for taking donations for a charity, what's the harm.
It appears that about 35% of the Country ( USA) thinks unilaterally..and thinks in simplistic terms. It's like playing multi-chess levels with a simple checkerboard mind..IMO.
There's many term's used throughout my lifetime that explains such belief system differences and ability to deal in multi-lateral Chess Game. Global views must include multi-level ..versus..It's us or them. Obviously 30-35% can't
Those that wish to live inside walls..keep out those others..are kidding themselves. This is not the world of the 17th Century.. The world simply cannot be views simplistically. Not considering ALL sides leads to narrow thinking ( Black and white/Right and Wrong/ or Perfect/Evil extreme thinking) makes decisions made based on lack of consideration..Just GUT thoughts and Head in the Sand reaction.
30+% populous appear to have an inability to view anything beyond their personal view of Good or bad thoughts.. Kind of a rather SIMPLE way to view life > But, is certainly abundant enough to cause complete divides in once was viewed by the World as a stalwart leader for the "Free World".
Trump has rolled back that viewpoint by many many decades..Too bad..those who want Trump come across as those same poor conned ones that died under the leadership of Jim Jones! They too believed he was their "Saviour"
Republicans "literally" ignore and cover up the spending of their politicians, and once their politicians are out of office they attack democrats for spending.
GW Bush was president from 2001-2009.
2001 federal spending- $1,862 trillion dollars.
2009 federal spending- $3,517 trillion dollars.
GW Bush increased government spending by $1,655 trillion dollars.
Obama was present 2009-today.
2009 federal spending- $3,517 trillion dollars.
2014 federal spending- $3,506 trillion dollars.
Republicans never said a word about GW Bush's spending, but then they turned around and attacked Obama for spending (when Obama decreased spending.)
And if Hillary becomes president she will raise spending to 22.7% of GDP.
And if Trump becomes president he will raise spending to 22.5% of GDP.
"Hillary would spend $350 billion more on college education, $300 billion more on infrastructure, another $300 billion on paid family leave, and nearly half a trillion on a variety of other initiatives."
But because of Trumps tax cuts for the richest 5% of Americans he will raise our debt to 127% of GDP, and because Hillary will not give the richest 5% of Americans tax cuts she will only raise our debt to 87% of GDP.
Spending adds to our debt but so does lack of revenues.
But unfortunately America's left and right can not have conversations about Saudi Arabia's influence in our government. Instead republicans cover up, ignore, and hide Saudi Arabian relationships with republican politicians (and then use Saudi Arabian relations to attack democrats.)
This is probably the most substantive response to the Clinton Foundation/Saudi issue brought up here. Personally, I don't care if you have a D or a R behind your name. If you are an established politician and are gaining from taking $, implicit bribes, etc from a foreign country like Saudi Arabia who support radical terrorists, I don't want to vote for you.
Now Trumps ties to SA appear to be business related as far as I can tell (I looked at your link) and not politically motivated. I really highly doubt that like 5 years ago a bunch of Saudi's said, "Hey Trump, let us rent some space from you in Trump Tower so that when you become President you can owe me a favor." Seems like his other dealings were raising debt/equity partners for development deals. The real estate assets themselves backed these deals, not some future promise of time on his political agenda. The notion that there was some implicit understanding that SA gave $ for a development deal b/c he would be able to help them politically someday is pretty silly. I mean, seriously, who thought we would ever be having this convo 2 years ago?
So, I do see a difference here but I think THESE types of discussions should be the focus of this election. Not who Trump said a bad word about or who Bill slept with.
Republicans "literally" ignore and cover up the spending of their politicians, and once their politicians are out of office they attack democrats for spending.
GW Bush was president from 2001-2009.
2001 federal spending- $1,862 trillion dollars.
2009 federal spending- $3,517 trillion dollars.
GW Bush increased government spending by $1,655 trillion dollars.
Obama was present 2009-today.
2009 federal spending- $3,517 trillion dollars.
2014 federal spending- $3,506 trillion dollars.
Republicans never said a word about GW Bush's spending, but then they turned around and attacked Obama for spending (when Obama decreased spending.)
And if Hillary becomes president she will raise spending to 22.7% of GDP.
And if Trump becomes president he will raise spending to 22.5% of GDP.
"Hillary would spend $350 billion more on college education, $300 billion more on infrastructure, another $300 billion on paid family leave, and nearly half a trillion on a variety of other initiatives."
But because of Trumps tax cuts for the richest 5% of Americans he will raise our debt to 127% of GDP, and because Hillary will not give the richest 5% of Americans tax cuts she will only raise our debt to 87% of GDP.
Spending adds to our debt but so does lack of revenues.
What does this have to do with Saudi Arabia and the Clinton Foundation? Supporting the increase of radical terrorism and the federal deficit are not related as far as I am aware?
Who cares how much money you have in the bank if you are dead?
The money goes tocharity, do you think it would change anything if they refused the funding. We have been providing Saudi Arabia with military arms for decades, even after their involvement in 9/11. We have many relationships with foreign countries that support terror such as Pakistan, pulling our support takes away any leverage.
The world is complicated, if we were to divorce our county from anyone that supported terror it would work against us in the end.
So here we have two countries that support covert terror and you are criticizing the Clinton Foundation for taking donations for a charity, what's the harm.
A very small portion.
BTW,Haitians are wondering what happened to the money Clintons made off of their misery.
In 1966 Trump went swimming less than 30 minutes after eating.
Your move, OP.
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I heard he routinely has milk in his fridge past the due date.
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Worse -- he once ripped the "Do Not Remove " tag off his mattress.
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He drinks out of the carton.
But you guys don't know the REALLY bad stuff! I heard that someone's been examining home movies from Trump's old neighborhood in Queens. And THIS bombshell has emerged: In 1957, at a Bar Mitzvah party for one of his friends, Donald can clearly be seen in the background, double-dipping a potato chip.
Like decent women everywhere, I'm just flabbergasted! Oh, the humanity....
This is probably the most substantive response to the Clinton Foundation/Saudi issue brought up here. Personally, I don't care if you have a D or a R behind your name. If you are an established politician and are gaining from taking $, implicit bribes, etc from a foreign country like Saudi Arabia who support radical terrorists, I don't want to vote for you.
Now Trumps ties to SA appear to be business related as far as I can tell (I looked at your link) and not politically motivated. I really highly doubt that like 5 years ago a bunch of Saudi's said, "Hey Trump, let us rent some space from you in Trump Tower so that when you become President you can owe me a favor." Seems like his other dealings were raising debt/equity partners for development deals. The real estate assets themselves backed these deals, not some future promise of time on his political agenda. The notion that there was some implicit understanding that SA gave $ for a development deal b/c he would be able to help them politically someday is pretty silly. I mean, seriously, who thought we would ever be having this convo 2 years ago?
So, I do see a difference here but I think THESE types of discussions should be the focus of this election. Not who Trump said a bad word about or who Bill slept with.
Did Donald Trump do business with Muslims to aid them in attacking America? I don't think so.
Did Hillary Clinton/Clinton Foundation take money from Muslims to aid them in attacking America? I don't think so.
Every president since Ronald Reagan has taken money from, done business with, or taken charitable donations from Muslims. And personally I don't think these types of Muslim conversations should be the focus of the election. And I feel the same way about Trumps private all men conversations, Bill Clinton's sex life, and Donald Trumps sex life (but still these social events are the focus of the election.)
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WIKILEAKS! Hillary & Obama have known since 2014 that Saudi & Qatar Fund ISIS!
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