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View Poll Results: Should this man be charged for driving through protesters blocking the road?
Yes 30 28.04%
No 77 71.96%
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:02 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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Both the driver and the protesters should be arrested and charged with violations of appropriate laws.

One violation does not justify the another violation.
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:05 AM
 
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Both the driver and the protesters should be arrested and charged with violations of appropriate laws.

One violation does not justify the another violation.
The thing is that the law may allow him to take his actions if he felt his life were in jeopardy.

Is there any law that allows a person to walk up and threaten violence against another person who has not made such a threat?
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:12 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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They were fine when they were walking down the sidewalk and crossing through intersections, but when they began saying they were taking the streets, and the streets belonged to them, it became a problem.

People who stop traffic are losing people who might otherwise be sympathetic to their cause.
They were pulling that here on the freeways making many late for work or in need of medical help.
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Did the illegal protesters physically threaten the driver of the car? If so, despite what BLM and professional outraged liberals claim there is no moral or legal obligation to let oneself be beaten up by a mob.
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:28 AM
 
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Did the illegal protesters physically threaten the driver of the car? If so, despite what BLM and professional outraged liberals claim there is no moral or legal obligation to let oneself be beaten up by a mob.
The video makes it quite clear that the driver was directly threatened with imment physical harm.
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Did the illegal protesters physically threaten the driver of the car? If so, despite what BLM and professional outraged liberals claim there is no moral or legal obligation to let oneself be beaten up by a mob.
Yes, they did threaten the driver.

Which makes the position of Fox Terrier, notably absent by the way, even crazier in referencing his "punk ass behavior".
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Old 10-12-2016, 10:30 AM
 
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The video makes it quite clear that the driver was directly threatened with imment physical harm.
I don't see why that's a necessary component. Roads are to be driven on, so drive on. If they intentionally get in the way, WHERE THEY SHOULDN'T BE, clearly to interfere with the flow of traffic, that's on them. I suspect they won't be there very long after that.
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Old 10-12-2016, 11:29 AM
 
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The thing is that the law may allow him to take his actions if he felt his life were in jeopardy.
Still should be charged. The driver (and whomever.. protesters too) will get their chance to make a case for self defense (or whatever defense) in court.
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Old 10-12-2016, 11:46 AM
 
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Still should be charged. The driver (and whomever.. protesters too) will get their chance to make a case for self defense (or whatever defense) in court.
No. When a person does something that is clearly within the law, they should not be charged to satisfy public outcry.

Once again, going under the assumption that the state laws allow for a person to escape an imminent threat via use of deadly force, he should not be charged.
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Old 10-13-2016, 07:30 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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No. When a person does something that is clearly within the law, they should not be charged to satisfy public outcry.
Whether or not they acted within their rights/law is not to be decided on the street. It has nothing to do with public outcry. The DA decides if there is enough to charge an individual. The court decides if the individual is ultimately guilty or liable.

From what I've seen, there is enough to bring charges on both sides; protesters and driver. Arrest and charges do not necessarily mean culpability but enough for charges. When I say they should be charged, I'm not implying that I have determine guilt in my mind.

To summarize.... no one except the judge in court is able to determine if the indvidual acted "clearly within the law". In order to bring it to the court, people have to be charged and given due process.

You say someone shouldn't be arrested/charged due to public outcry... well... the opposite is true as well. Someone shouldn't be let off due to public outcry as well.


Get everyone involved into the legal process... let the system deal with it.

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