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Old 10-15-2016, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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We wouldn't have a shortage of good paying jobs if we rid this country of illegal aliens. Of course the left never gets that. Trump does and so do his supporters.
So if all of the illegals left tomorrow, everyone currently working would immediately be worth middle-class wages?
Do people honestly believe that fast food places pay minimum wage because of illegals?
Call centers?
Department stores or supermarkets?
Restaurants?
Nursing homes?

There have always been, and always will be, low-paying jobs and those jobs will be done by people with families and/or by people that want to have families.

Is Trump planning to force every employer to offer no- or low-cost health insurance to people working those sorts of jobs?

Is he planning to sign an executive order stating that only those making X amount per year be allowed to procreate?

Has he suggested how much it would cost to eliminate Medicaid and leave everyone to the mercy of the free market?

How much do you think it would cost if every birth was an "emergency?"
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Old 10-15-2016, 04:59 PM
 
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Immigration drives down wages at most levels because it increases competition from all the displaced workers. It also drives up prices and cost of living.
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Old 10-15-2016, 06:03 PM
 
Location: where time stood still nepa
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A couple of things I've never seen mentioned re this topic; is...
1/ quite a few states do not provide help with housing or cash if one is single without children.
2/ Nothing is mentioned about the gruesome lives some of these kids endure b/c of not being wanted in the first place, or just plain killed.

I've been reading this forum and others a long time. Enjoy it and seldom post.
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Old 10-15-2016, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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If only there was a nationwide network of family-planning clinics providing contraception and sexual education that these poor people could go to...
There is! They are called Doctors, and they are all over the place in the United States!

If you pick up a phone book (look up doctors on the internet), you will find medical clinics everywhere. It's amazing!
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Old 10-15-2016, 07:03 PM
 
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Irresponsible people enabled by the government breed irresponsibly more of the irresponsible. Shocking isn't it ?
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Old 10-16-2016, 04:05 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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If republicans didn't want low income Americans having children they would support Planned Parenthood.
No need. I posted a link to a search for 'County health department family planning clinics.' 4.5 million results. The public already funds plenty of family planning services. The problem is that minorities won't use contraceptives, even when they're provided free of charge.

For example, this attitude is simply stunning:
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32% agree with the statement: "The government is trying to limit Blacks and other minority populations by encouraging the use of birth control."
Although Most Unmarried Young Adults Want to Avoid Pregnancy, Many Don't Use Contraception
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Old 10-16-2016, 04:42 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Are there studies available that show the percentage of those families that rely on Medicaid post-birth and into adulthood?
48% of all Medicaid enrollees are children, age 0-18.

There are 70 million enrolled in Medicaid. That means 33.6 million of them are children. There are 73.6 million children age 0-18 in the U.S. population. Doing the simple math shows that 45.7% of all U.S. children age 0-18 are enrolled in Medicaid.

So, yeah, the overwhelming majority of those families stay on Medicaid for those kids' first 18 years.
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Old 10-16-2016, 05:00 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Well you're saying that adults in relationships should not be having sex until they can pay for the hospital. If they don't have insurance then they should pay out of pocket. I'm just wondering where you suggest the threshold start before we give these adults in relationships the go-ahead to get busy...
That's an absurd assertion. There are adults in relationships that have chosen to remain childless, or limit their family size to one or two kids. Is it your claim that those adults don't have sex? Utterly ridiculous.

They're responsible about it. And therein lies the difference...
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Old 10-16-2016, 05:34 AM
 
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This is Obama and Hillary's dream for America.
Notice how they are red states. Just sayin'.
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Old 10-16-2016, 06:32 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Notice how they are red states. Just sayin'.
They're Dem voters in red states. Minorities are disproportionately over-represented on Medicaid rolls. The vast majority of minorities vote Dem.

Medicaid Enrollment by Race/Ethnicity | The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation
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