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Old 10-20-2016, 07:49 AM
 
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Originally Posted by hooligan View Post
More armed people refusing to comply with police commands is only going to lead to more people getting shot by LEOs.
That isn't exactly what I said so I feel no desire to respond to it.

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LOL at "unlawful" commands. You got some examples there, Clarence Darrow?
They have been posted here many times. From demanding I.D. where one does not require one to telling people they can not do something they have every right to do.

We are going to have to insist on better police training.

 
Old 10-20-2016, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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This has all already been covered.
It was asked.

You never gave an honest, sensible answer.
 
Old 10-20-2016, 09:01 AM
 
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It was asked.

You never gave an honest, sensible answer.
Sorry that you think an honest answer is only one you agree with.
 
Old 10-20-2016, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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It was asked.

You never gave an honest, sensible answer.
I asked him the same question and he dodged it as well. According to him a police officer needs to be psychic and a mental health care specialist. Always consider a suspect with a weapon to be passive and trust he won't shoot you. If all else fails holster his weapon and allow the suspect to shoot him if need be. Take one for the team so to speak.
 
Old 10-20-2016, 09:09 AM
 
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I asked him the same question and he dodged it as well. According to him a police officer needs to be psychic and a mental health care specialist. Always consider a suspect with a weapon to be passive and trust he won't shoot you. If all else fails holster his weapon and allow the suspect to shoot him if need be. Take one for the team so to speak.
Police officers handle similar situations daily and no one gets killed.

Are you saying they are incompetent for not simply firing away?
 
Old 10-20-2016, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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Police officers handle similar situations daily and no one gets killed.

Are you saying they are incompetent for not simply firing away?
You take a case where a police officer did not fire his weapon when confronted with an armed individual and use that as a reference point for all officers to do the same. The death toll for police officers using this technique will skyrocket but I am guessing you prefer that to a criminal getting shot. You seem to ALWAYS side with the criminal. HMMMM.....
 
Old 10-20-2016, 09:37 AM
 
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Sorry that you think an honest answer is only one you agree with.
No, I don't have to agree with it.

But it does have to be an actual answer instead of an evasive dodge.

You seem to think that because some police interactions with an armed suspect end without the suspect getting shot, that somehow means that they all could end that way.

Not likely to happen when a suspect refuses to comply with orders to drop a gun (real or not) that they are aiming at an officer.
 
Old 10-20-2016, 09:43 AM
 
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You take a case where a police officer did not fire his weapon when confronted with an armed individual and use that as a reference point for all officers to do the same.
No I didn't. I won't discuss things with those who make up positions for me.
 
Old 10-20-2016, 09:44 AM
 
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No, I don't have to agree with it.

But it does have to be an actual answer instead of an evasive dodge.

You seem to think that because some police interactions with an armed suspect end without the suspect getting shot, that somehow means that they all could end that way.

Not likely to happen when a suspect refuses to comply with orders to drop a gun (real or not) that they are aiming at an officer.
Ditto.
 
Old 10-20-2016, 09:48 AM
 
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No I didn't. I won't discuss things with those who make up positions for me.
That is EXACTLY what you did. Now take your ball and go home.
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