The Left Dangerously Brainwashing Millennials Believe That George Bush Killed More People Than Joseph Stalin (Iran, generations)

[burdell]

Originally Posted by dsjj251

He is, regardless of the death count.

Afghanistan was harboring terrorist, and Saddam was by definition a war criminal himself. Bush was justified even if he lied (was lied to)about the reasoning.

Because his personal vendetta was more important than actually finding/eliminating those who attacked the US?

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by burdell

Because his personal vendetta was more important than actually finding/eliminating those who attacked the US?

We went into Afganistan to find those who attacked America. No one claimed we went to Iraq to do that.

What you are referring to right now is the common misconception of individuals who do not follow the news and assumed we went to Iraq to do the same thing we did in Afghanistan.

Are you actually arguing that you believed we went to Iraq for that reason, or are you saying people in general didnt know ?????

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by marigolds6

I think they are including Mao Zedong's regime and the Great Chinese Famine for the "100 million under Communism" number. (Another case where political enemies of the regime had their grain seized and were blocked from food supplies, causing massive starvation on top of several million executions.)

I could understand the number then, but could anyone off the top of their head name the amount of people killed under an ideology/system of government ?

[Chowhound]

Originally Posted by fordtrucks

I'm no fan of George Bush but to believe something like that is just outrageous!!! This is why even though Donald Trump may win the presidency. Its not going to matter if we don't win back our culture that includes education, the main street media and pop culture. Otherwise the country will be finished.


Millennials believe George W Bush killed more people than Stalin, finds survey | The Independent

I'm no Bush fan myself, but I find that sorta far left liberal stuff to be complete and utter nonsense. Facts are facts and people need to dial the hyperbole way way down.

[Creekcat]

Originally Posted by marigolds6

26% is a pretty enormous number to get a really simple and fundamental fact wrong.
Stalin had a couple of million citizens shot, purposely starved to death 3M+ in just 2 years, and all of that was before the Great Terror and WWII.

That's more than two orders of magnitude larger than all military and civilian deaths on all sides combined in the Iraq War. Stalin purposely starved to death 100x more people (by taking all their grain and cutting off their borders for 2 years) in 2 years than died in the Iraq War. He executed 10x as many people just during the Great Terror than died in the Iraq War from all causes.

26% is an enormous number to have get that wrong.

26%, And as we get farther removed from when it happened, expect that % to go up.

[WestCobb]

Originally Posted by GHOSTRIDER AZ

So much for thier education in our Universities. They probably think the Plege of Allegence is raist!



God Help us all!

Really?

[burdell]

Originally Posted by dsjj251

We went into Afganistan to find those who attacked America. No one claimed we went to Iraq to do that.

What you are referring to right now is the common misconception of individuals who do not follow the news and assumed we went to Iraq to do the same thing we did in Afghanistan.

Are you actually arguing that you believed we went to Iraq for that reason, or are you saying people in general didnt know ?????

No, I'm arguing that finding those who actually attacked us and eliminating them should have been a far higher priority than ousting a man who held his own country in check and presented no imminent threat to the US.

[Scratch33]

Originally Posted by odanny

What are you babbling about? Perhaps you need to read your own links first:

Your pointing out the facts isn't going to help matters.

[Chowhound]

Originally Posted by marigolds6

26% is a pretty enormous number to get a really simple and fundamental fact wrong.
Stalin had a couple of million citizens shot, purposely starved to death 3M+ in just 2 years, and all of that was before the Great Terror and WWII.

That's more than two orders of magnitude larger than all military and civilian deaths on all sides combined in the Iraq War. Stalin purposely starved to death 100x more people (by taking all their grain and cutting off their borders for 2 years) in 2 years than died in the Iraq War. He executed 10x as many people just during the Great Terror than died in the Iraq War from all causes.

26% is an enormous number to have get that wrong.

Yeah, I agree, that number is terrifying to me that it is that high and people are that ignorant of basic history. This stuff should be known on a basic level, not all the details, but people should be aware that Stalin was an evil tyrant on a similar order as Hitler and I'm not sure who has the higher death toll but it should be known that Stalin murdered millions of people too.

[burdell]

Originally Posted by Chowhound

Yeah, I agree, that number is terrifying to me that it is that high and people are that ignorant of basic history. This stuff should be known on a basic level, not all the details, but people should be aware that Stalin was an evil tyrant on a similar order as Hitler and I'm not sure who has the higher death toll but it should be known that Stalin murdered millions of people too.

Stalin was responsible for something called the holodomor that deliberately starved about as many Ukrainians to death as Hitler killed in the camps yet it has never been publicized anywhere near as much as the holocaust.