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Old 04-19-2018, 05:01 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Only you and others on the right are angry about it. I'm a taxpayer and I'm not angry
Apparently, not. That's why Trump won in 2016. Working class Dems voted for him.
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Old 04-19-2018, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Apparently, not. That's why Trump won in 2016. Working class Dems voted for him.
I'm a middle class (though blue collar) Democrat and I voted for Clinton
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Old 04-19-2018, 06:27 AM
 
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I'm a middle class (though blue collar) Democrat and I voted for Clinton
Hillary lost supposed "blue wall" states because working class Dems crossed party lines and voted for Trump.
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Old 04-19-2018, 06:35 AM
 
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I'm a middle class (though blue collar) Democrat and I voted for Clinton
Being middle class and Dem is not enough. If a Dem wants the Democrat party to represent them they need to be a non citizen and/or criminal. That's been made quite clear.

People must be a costumer of a government institution at some time in their life.
Mental or criminal institution gets priority.

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Old 04-19-2018, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Being middle class and Dem is not enough. If a Dem wants the Democrat party to represent them they need to be a non citizen and/or criminal. That's been made quite clear.

People must be a costumer of a government institution at some time in their life.
Mental or criminal institution gets priority.
Hogwash
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Old 04-19-2018, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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Hogwash
Then how do those of you over in Left Field mange to convince the average white working-class voter that (s)he still has "skin in the game"?

All you can do is continue to beat the broken drum that "rich Republicans" are "exploiting" us, and that there's a large pile of money -- somewhere -- that will allow us all to live better if you and your thug allies can "redistribute" it.

That is the real "hogwash" being peddled to the ignorant -- and the only way you can perpetuate it is to continue to turn out criminal, "illegal" and faux "homeless" losers to shore up your failing coalition.

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Old 04-19-2018, 09:57 AM
 
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Then how do those of you over in Left Field mange to convince the average white working-class voter that (s)he still has "skin in the game"?


All you can do is continue to beat the broken drum that "rich Republicans" are "exploiting" us, and that there's a large pile of money -- somewhere -- that will allow us all to live better if you and your thug allies can "redistribute" it.


That is the real "hogwash" being peddled to the ignorant -- and the only way you can perpetuate it is to continue to turn out criminal, "illegal" and faux "homeless" losers to shore up your failing coalition.
^^Fake news

If we removed the cap on FICA contributions and instituted a 10% national sales tax, we could fund single payer healthcare in this country
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Old 04-19-2018, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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^^Fake news

If we removed the cap on FICA contributions and instituted a 10% national sales tax, we could fund single payer healthcare in this country
And every drunk, druggie, dropout and Democrat in town would flock to your new "free lunch" -- while a dwindling number who see through the Great Lie from the Braying Jackass are expected to foot the bill.

You were asked to provide a positive solution; All you did was to toss out the usual penny candy to the typical short-sighted clientele.

The same stuff that rolls downhill also sticks together, and the consequences are becoming more apparent every day.

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There is no cap on the Medicare tax.

And the only reason there's a cap on the tax for SS is because there's a cap on SS benefits. Everyone but the low-income currently LOSE money on SS. They get back LESS than they pay in SS tax. Welcome to the club. The same will happen to you.
Sooner or later, those who see through the Great Ponzi Scheme will have no choice but to take control, and the American Experiment, and those who still believe in it (as opposed to the peddlers of Socialist drivel) run the risk of being the biggest losers.

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Old 04-19-2018, 10:07 AM
 
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^^Fake news

If we removed the cap on FICA contributions and instituted a 10% national sales tax, we could fund single payer healthcare in this country
There is no cap on the Medicare tax.

And the only reason there's a cap on the tax for SS is because there's a cap on SS benefits. Everyone but the low-income currently LOSE money on SS. They get back LESS than they pay in SS tax. Welcome to the club. The same will happen to you.
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Old 04-19-2018, 10:19 AM
 
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Age discrimination has been rampant long before Trump was elected. I think we should email the White House to ask for his administration to address this problem the same way they've done with racial and disabilities discrimination. Maybe give a tax cut to companies employing people on Social Security. Even part time work would be welcomed by many.
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