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Old 11-05-2016, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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In the world. What is your point?
The statement is one of those that sound very solid but are not. The number varies by a factor of two depending on how you define it and, as a percentage, has decreased. So the statement is really that world population has increased while slavery has decreased but the absolute number has grown.

It should of course be stamped out but that likely requires the eradication of certain sects who support the practice. So we likely have to go to strong violence against various groups to end the practice. Do we need to kill more people than we rescue? Is that a net gain?

I would hope that we can eliminate the practice by strong but humane actions...primarily educational. Convince people that it is evil. Perhaps in at least some places we can buy the practice out. But the practice is deeply ingrained on some societies and is unlikely to vanish in the lifetime of those now living.
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Old 11-05-2016, 06:42 PM
 
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(THE COLLEGE FIX) — For 11 years, Professor Duke Pesta gave quizzes to his students at the beginning of the school year to test their knowledge on basic facts about American history and Western culture.

The most surprising result from his 11-year experiment? Students’ overwhelming belief that slavery began in the United States and was almost exclusively an American phenomenon, he said.
I meet people all the time online and IRL who believe slavery was invented in the United States. They don't believe it's ever existed anywhere else in history. They don't believe that it still goes in today in many countries, all over the world.
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Old 11-05-2016, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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The statement is one of those that sound very solid but are not. The number varies by a factor of two depending on how you define it and, as a percentage, has decreased. So the statement is really that world population has increased while slavery has decreased but the absolute number has grown.

It should of course be stamped out but that likely requires the eradication of certain sects who support the practice. So we likely have to go to strong violence against various groups to end the practice. Do we need to kill more people than we rescue? Is that a net gain?

I would hope that we can eliminate the practice by strong but humane actions...primarily educational. Convince people that it is evil. Perhaps in at least some places we can buy the practice out. But the practice is deeply ingrained on some societies and is unlikely to vanish in the lifetime of those now living.
I stated a fact.
There are more slaves today than at any point in history.
Please attempt to refute this fact so we can continue to laugh at you.
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Old 11-05-2016, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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I stated a fact.
There are more slaves today than at any point in history.
Please attempt to refute this fact so we can continue to laugh at you.
Sorry...I simply point out the "fact" is irrelevant. It simply demonstrates world population has increased. The probability that any randomly picked person will be enslaved has gone down.

And the truth is that slavery is not about to go away as it is societally acceptable in some cultures.
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Old 11-05-2016, 08:15 PM
 
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We tend to discuss it as a very American issue due to the civil war. Kinda sad that the teachers dont cover it in a more general fashion.
Its not about slavery only. The tendency in the US is to see America as the center of the world with little regard to the rest of the world. (i.e. when 2 baseball teams play, we call it "the world series championship"). There aren't many countries with population so ignorant about other people and cultures.
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Old 11-05-2016, 08:17 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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Its not about slavery only. The tendency in the US is to see America as the center of the world with little regard to the rest of the world. (i.e. when 2 baseball teams play, we call it "the world series championship"). There aren't many countries with population so ignorant about other people and cultures.
Yeah, your point???
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Old 11-05-2016, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Japan
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Its not about slavery only. The tendency in the US is to see America as the center of the world with little regard to the rest of the world. (i.e. when 2 baseball teams play, we call it "the world series championship"). There aren't many countries with population so ignorant about other people and cultures.
America is the center of the world in many ways, so that view is in line with reality.
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Old 11-05-2016, 08:58 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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The most surprising result from his 11-year experiment? Students’ overwhelming belief that slavery began in the United States and was almost exclusively an American phenomenon, he said.

"Their entire education about slavery was confined to America.”
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But I am unable to find a big problem. Those coming out of High School are only barely educated. And if you get to the meat those out of college have a long way to go. But is that wrong in some way?
It shows the failures of the Liberal-based education system.
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Old 11-05-2016, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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Look - when I said "had more" I meant more imports of slaves. They imported far more into the other colonies than the US. Any reproducing was a different thing than bringing people straight from Africa. That's out of the control of the colonists, while they entirely could control how many they imported.

Anyway, YOU were wrong when you said that the US was a "unique situation." It wasn't. Haiti was essentially a country of slaves, like I said they outnumbered the French 10 to 1. They were able to overtake the colonists and gain independence. The entire Atlantic Slave Trade was "unique" in that it was a systematic trading system of goods and people that lasted for centuries. Americans need to know that while slavery was a dark part of our history, we were NOT the only ones to have it, we didn't have the most slaves coming from Africa, and we didn't have the most brutal system. Slavery was not the worst in the US and we certainly did not invent it.
Correct. Fewer than 400,000 people were imported from Africa into the United States to be sold as slaves. At the time of the Civil War, there were about 4 million enslaved people. Brutality is subjective. It was not good to be a slave no matter what, I'm pretty sure.
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Old 11-05-2016, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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It shows the failures of the Liberal-based education system.
So if we go to some RW system they all come out of high school with Phd level educations?

Please tell usa how that works.
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