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Old 11-04-2016, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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You specified Paris did you not? Ever been to Dearborn Mi.?

What you've said is "Paris is trashed" while ignoring Detroit that was trashed long before Paris experienced one block being left with refuse in the streets.

Your point was debunked by the third or fourth post as being a false staged narrative, yet here you are still claiming they have a problem greater than any the U.S. faces?

Start with some actual stats showing the entire city of Paris is now trashed due solely to Islamic migrants and then we can begin to discuss the topic with some intelligence. Otherwise you're just another basher attempting to laud a faux superiority from the nosebleed seats.
The families of almost 300 dead French people may take issue with your downplaying the problem over there.
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Old 11-04-2016, 10:22 AM
 
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The families of almost 300 dead French people may take issue with your downplaying the problem over there.
You are seriously attempting to play the "shame" game?

Haarr; that would be laughable if it weren't for the fact that once again, you people have an amazing capacity for ignorance.

Articles: Illegal Aliens Murder at a Much Higher Rate Than US Citizens Do

This thread was started and perpetuated on the premise that France, or more significantly, "Paris is trashed" specifically due to migrants. More to the point the thread implies a higher moral imperative attached to the U.S. because it's not ...you know.....the stupid, socialistic French.

We have this emanating from where again.......why, the country that has encouraged decades of illegal entry by it's southern neighbour with the resultant up-tick in crimes and fraud for what purpose again.....why that would be for the sole purpose that greed motivated Americans could enjoy the fruits of cheaper labour.

You presume to lecture anyone over morality and ethics as it applies to immigration of any type, from any source at your own peril.
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Old 11-04-2016, 10:59 AM
 
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The families of almost 300 dead French people may take issue with your downplaying the problem over there.
Unrelated. Terrorists were european born citizens or immigrants who lived there for a long period.
It"s like saying that gang violence in Chicago is due to illegal immigration.

The main perpetrators.
-January 2015 (Paris)
Chérif and Saïd Kouachi : born in 1980 and 1982 in Paris, France
Amedy Coulibaly: born in 1982 in Paris, France
-November 2015 (Paris)
Abdelhamid Abaaoud: born in 1987 in Brussels Belgium
Salah Abdeslam: born in 1989 in Brussels Belgium
-July 2016 (Nice)
Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel: born 1985 in in M'saken, Tunisia. Resided in France since 2005.
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Old 11-04-2016, 12:14 PM
 
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You are seriously attempting to play the "shame" game?

Haarr; that would be laughable if it weren't for the fact that once again, you people have an amazing capacity for ignorance.

Articles: Illegal Aliens Murder at a Much Higher Rate Than US Citizens Do

This thread was started and perpetuated on the premise that France, or more significantly, "Paris is trashed" specifically due to migrants. More to the point the thread implies a higher moral imperative attached to the U.S. because it's not ...you know.....the stupid, socialistic French.

We have this emanating from where again.......why, the country that has encouraged decades of illegal entry by it's southern neighbour with the resultant up-tick in crimes and fraud for what purpose again.....why that would be for the sole purpose that greed motivated Americans could enjoy the fruits of cheaper labour.

You presume to lecture anyone over morality and ethics as it applies to immigration of any type, from any source at your own peril.


What 'people' are you talking about? WHOM are you referring to?


Sorry, regardless of whom, your words are highly offensive.
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Old 11-04-2016, 03:46 PM
 
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What 'people' are you talking about? WHOM are you referring to?


Sorry, regardless of whom, your words are highly offensive.
It should have been evident from content. BUT, for your edification, the people I'm referring to are those assuming a superior attitude while using a faux narrative in attempting to heap scorn on France for it's humanitarian efforts regarding migrants. They can hardly claim higher ground with decades of encouraging millions of illegal immigrants from Mexico for no good reason other than personal greed, with the resultant negative effects.

Those would be the "whom" I'm referring to.

As to my words being offensive ......surely you jest?
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Old 11-04-2016, 04:01 PM
 
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That "brawl" video has been recycled, It was circulating in April and now the others must be questioned for current validity as well.
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Old 11-04-2016, 04:04 PM
 
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Just send them back where they came from.

Problem solved.
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Old 11-04-2016, 04:09 PM
 
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It should have been evident from content. BUT, for your edification, the people I'm referring to are those assuming a superior attitude while using a faux narrative in attempting to heap scorn on France for it's humanitarian efforts regarding migrants. They can hardly claim higher ground with decades of encouraging millions of illegal immigrants from Mexico for no good reason other than personal greed, with the resultant negative effects.

Those would be the "whom" I'm referring to.




As to my words being offensive ......surely you jest?
Oh that clears it up
Really. WHO 'encourages the millions of Mexicans'? Not to sound daft...I seriously not sure what group exactly incur your wrath.
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Old 11-04-2016, 04:41 PM
 
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Oh that clears it up
Really. WHO 'encourages the millions of Mexicans'? Not to sound daft...I seriously not sure what group exactly incur your wrath.
Aaah, you think it's wrath I'm displaying?

What or who would you attribute "encouragement" to if laws were virtually ignored regarding firstly patrolling and preventing illegals coming across by limiting resources for those tasks. Who would YOU deem is encouraging them if various states governors have taken a mixed approach by either completely ignoring the problem at the behest of the massive aggra industry in California and Arizona to continue allowing the usage of illegals to offset the high cost of chemical nutrients required for the growing veggies in "sterile" sand.

Who would you suggest might be encouraging if generation after generation of Mexicans have had to do nothing more than wade a river to gain employment all along the I-8, I-10 interstate corridor. Encouraging would be the impeding of full implementation of E-verify. Encouragement would be something like catching 30 or 40 of them to then pay the costs to bus them all the way back to the border without any punitive measures taken to see that they are not "repeaters". Who would you attribute the encouraging to if it's been common for decades that catch and release only leads to repeat offenders.

What other criminal behaviour do you know of where the offenders are allowed to continue offending with the expectation they'll willingly stop offending without that anomaly being called "encouragement".

Were I to continually trespass on your property to then set up domicile and avail myself of amenities you worked for and built and when caught simply given a bus ride back to whence I came only to return again and again' what word would you choose to use to describe my treatment? I believe the most relevant term available is "encouragement".

Where I wintered for years in Yuma was close to the action and all you needed to do was be at one of the Loves or TA truck stops that had service shops close by and watch the fun when one of those white with green stripe Border Patrol Chevy's pulled in, the rear doors of those shops would bang open and little bodies would be scurrying out to hide among the sagebrush clumps. All work would come to a halt until the all-clear was sounded. That's been going on for decades without any real efforts made to stop it.

If they can come across illegally, if they can gain ready employment illegally, if they're granted education welfare, healthcare and other necessities, if they're granted not just one, but multiple amnesties, WHO is it you think should be accused of ENCOURAGING THEM.


Finally: it's not wrath, it's disgust!
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Old 11-04-2016, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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You are seriously attempting to play the "shame" game?

Haarr; that would be laughable if it weren't for the fact that once again, you people have an amazing capacity for ignorance.

Articles: Illegal Aliens Murder at a Much Higher Rate Than US Citizens Do

This thread was started and perpetuated on the premise that France, or more significantly, "Paris is trashed" specifically due to migrants. More to the point the thread implies a higher moral imperative attached to the U.S. because it's not ...you know.....the stupid, socialistic French.

We have this emanating from where again.......why, the country that has encouraged decades of illegal entry by it's southern neighbour with the resultant up-tick in crimes and fraud for what purpose again.....why that would be for the sole purpose that greed motivated Americans could enjoy the fruits of cheaper labour.

You presume to lecture anyone over morality and ethics as it applies to immigration of any type, from any source at your own peril.
OH come on now. Every one knows there were no illegals in the US until Obama was elected.

Ignore that illegal immigration became a tidal wave in the 80's. Forget that Bush 2 ran on a platform of Immigration Reform/ Amnesty. Forget that a partial wall was built but huge gaps were permitted to not mar the views of well connected gated communities, resorts, gold courses, a university and so on.

Ignore there have never been serious consequences for those who employ undocumented people.

Ignore the hundreds of sanctuary cities and counties throughout the country in red and blue states.

Ignore 30 years of doing nothing and it did not matter who sat the oval of held the majority. That's no accident.

It's all Obama's fault.
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