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Old 11-06-2016, 11:32 AM
 
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Sure ya do. (to is not too)

I have asked you several times to address all the facts, yet you choose to cherry pick the same talking point over and over. When all the facts are considered the numbers we are being given simply do not add up... yet you jump in to tell anyone who questions this that they are wrong.

At this point I don't care what any of the cheer leaders (for either side) have to say because it's shallow, meaningless, and completely partisan. It's a waste of breath because you and they are so one-minded and one-sided.
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Old 11-06-2016, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Two hours a day, three days a week is NOT a job.
Basically corporate America fought against the unions fifty years ago. They wanted their freedom to do whatever they pleased and the won; at least in the private sector. In the public sector it is not 'their' money so they don't care. However, the tools to break the unions; they have used to roll back wages and benefits. You are replaceable is the message they give American workers. Sure; they want our money - but they do not want to give you a fair day's pay for a fair day's work. Our workers have been given the bum's rap: They are lazy, unreliable, uneducated, and the list goes on. Their so called 'replacements' are held up as saints: Very hard workers, reliable, dependable, trustworthy, and the list goes on.

There was a time that our politicians would praise American workers. At that time no other country had more productive workers. Companies used to supply benefits, including dental, for their fair share of these 'hard' workers - they were in demand. Now, us 'replaceables'; are only good for temporary jobs without benefits or jobs that do not want to pay workers a full eight hour day (giving the message that there is simply not enough work and you are replaceable)! We are attacked on all sides: Outsourcing, legal and illegal immigration and the pending automation - we do not have a chance with our current group of politicians that are bought and paid for by (Pay for Play) special interest.
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Old 11-06-2016, 12:04 PM
 
Location: USA
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Basically corporate America fought against the unions fifty years ago. They wanted their freedom to do whatever they pleased and the won; at least in the private sector. In the public sector it is not 'their' money so they don't care. However, the tools to break the unions; they have used to roll back wages and benefits. You are replaceable is the message they give American workers. Sure; they want our money - but they do not want to give you a fair day's pay for a fair day's work. Our workers have been given the bum's rap: They are lazy, unreliable, uneducated, and the list goes on. Their so called 'replacements' are held up as saints: Very hard workers, reliable, dependable, trustworthy, and the list goes on.

There was a time that our politicians would praise American workers. At that time no other country had more productive workers. Companies used to supply benefits, including dental, for their fair share of these 'hard' workers - they were in demand. Now, us 'replaceables'; are only good for temporary jobs without benefits or jobs that do not want to pay workers a full eight hour day (giving the message that there is simply not enough work and you are replaceable)! We are attacked on all sides: Outsourcing, legal and illegal immigration and the pending automation - we do not have a chance with our current group of politicians that are bought and paid for by (Pay for Play) special interest.
That's the situation, yes.

God Bless America.
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Old 11-06-2016, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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It's because the Baby Boom generation has started retiring. This is the largest living generation(76 million Americans) in the USA. That's why they call it the 'boom' - because there are so many of them.

They are retiring in massive numbers each month. This has been expected for many years and there have been numerous news articles about this for a long time.

In addition, more young people are attending college. This means between the ages of 18-23, they are not in the workforce because they are college students.



Or living off student loans because they can't find a job that will pay enough to allow them to finally get their first apartment.


The problem with your baby boomer bull **** is that those at retirement age are still working in large numbers because they cannot afford to retire.


Meanwhile, the unemployment is concentrated in the youngest groups because adults are taking jobs in fast food.




But don't worry, incomes for the top 1% are skyrocketing!
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Old 11-06-2016, 12:25 PM
 
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But don't worry, incomes for the top 1% are skyrocketing!
Everybody is equal in America but some are more equal than others.
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Old 11-06-2016, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Just ignore the millions more people in the US than under Reagan, more people couldn't possibly have anything to do with more jobs. And how exactly did OBAMA create any jobs if he was being obstructed? The only reason the economy recovered at all was because the liberals were kicked out of the House and Senate and their cancerous policies - that caused the crash from 2006-2010 - were at least somewhat shut down.

Oh that's right, anything positive that happens is always 100% the result of Obama, everything negative that happens is because of the evil GOP.

It's sick how liberals constantly try to take credit for things they had NOTHING to do with. Private sector growth happens when government GTF out of the way. But what can you expect from the party of "you didn't build that".
Actually, most of our population growth since reagan has been in older age brackets that don't work anyway. Reagan had all those prime age boomers ready to work so our population labor force back then was in his favor for job growth.

Are you seriously crediting the republican obstructionists in congress for our economic recovery. Is that how desperate republicans are now?? I'll play along and expect you to hold Reagans economic success to his own congress, which was gridlocked until his last two years of presidency when it went democratic. Do you give congress credit for that expansion too.
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Old 11-06-2016, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Sure ya do. (to is not too)

I have asked you several times to address all the facts, yet you choose to cherry pick the same talking point over and over. When all the facts are considered the numbers we are being given simply do not add up... yet you jump in to tell anyone who questions this that they are wrong.

At this point I don't care what any of the cheer leaders (for either side) have to say because it's shallow, meaningless, and completely partisan. It's a waste of breath because you and they are so one-minded and one-sided.

See this:


A rational viewpoint; stating an undeniable truth.

At this point I'd say we can take out D and R and replace it with establishment.
Cheer leader, where have I been cheering for one side or the other in this thread?

Why would I even attempt to address whatever point you are attempting to make when the facts you present to support your claim are clearly wrong. Perhaps that is why you think the numbers don't add up.
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Old 11-07-2016, 06:01 AM
 
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Republicans President cause 5 times more Job Killing Recessions!!!

Every Republican President in History Caused Recessions or Depressions!!!

Clinton created more Jobs than Republican Presidents Reagan + Bush1 + Bush2 COMBINED!!!

Obama has the highest number of citizens employed in US history!!!

Obama has the 2nd highest percent of working age population employed in US history at 71.2%. Clinton holds the record at 74.2%!!!

Obama set record for most conservative months of job growth in US history, 73 straight months & counting!

Obama created more Jobs than Republican Presidents Ford + Bush1 + Bush2 COMBINED!!!



Recessions are the Biggest Killer of Jobs!!!

Princeton University economists, Alan Blinder and Mark Watson found that the economy tends to do better under Democratic presidents by numerous measures. They looked at quarterly economic data from 1947 through mid 2013 and the National Bureau of Economic Research’s official list of recessions.

Since 1947, there have been 11 official recessions, totaling 49 recessionary quarters. Of those 49 quarters, just eight occurred under Democratic presidents, compared to 41 under Republicans. So, over the past 65 years, quarters in recession were about five times more common under a Republican president than under a Democratic president.

Looking at how many recessions started under Republicans, the difference is even more stark, noted Blinder, the co-author. Of the 11 recessions since 1947, nine under Republicans, compared to just two under Democrats. Every Republican President in history caused at least one or 2 Job Killing Recessions or Depression for every term they were in office. Many Democrat Presidents have not had recessions, including Clinton & Obama.
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Old 11-07-2016, 06:14 AM
 
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Jobs, sure there are, like the manager at Bo's chicken who has his MA. Or the cashier at Dollar General who has a BA. What about some of the latest Walmart employees who are also college education. Most are so deep in debt from student loans they will never see the light of day.

Another vulture feather in Obama's cap. The financial enslavement of Americans. At least their working, but earning very little, and thereby paying very little taxes. How will we pay for the government? Oh, Obama is in charge so let's just print more money.
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Old 11-07-2016, 06:15 AM
 
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Another good jobs report is terrible news for the GOP and candidate Trump.

They all want America to think the sky is falling.

See: A Totally Fine Jobs Report Days Before the Election - The Atlantic


160,000 is below the "break even" point of 200,000.


That is a job report that only a liberal can love, as they want to see America impoverished and create a serf class of US citizens.
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