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Old 11-07-2016, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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How can you say trump hasn't worked a day in his life?.
He may have worked but he was born on 3rd base, purports to be for the "people" but has proposed tax policies that will comfort the comfortable, financially benefit him and screw the working class.

Deplorable Donald is a fantastic scam artist....gives Father Coughlin and George Wallace a run for their money.

The paranoid style in American politics is alive and well in the 21st Century...unfortunately.
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Old 11-07-2016, 01:50 PM
 
Location: 20 years from now
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True. However, the fact that he's shown himself to be ignorant in general and astonishingly ignorant on foreign relations, specifically, might perhaps have something to do with it?
Well, pick your poison, some one who's "astonishingly ignorant" or someone who exploits foreign relations for the sacrifice of the nation for their own personal wealth and for those that also surround them.

What amazes me between the two sets of supporters is that Trump voters can agree on his flaws..while Hillary supporters are willfully ignorant of hers and brazenly pretend that they just aren't there.
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Old 11-07-2016, 01:52 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Donald Trumps tax cuts will raise our national debt to 127% of GDP (when Hillary Clinton will keep our debt at 87% of GDP.)

And Donald Trump is a republican and republicans practice supply side/trickle down economics. Trumps tax cuts will give the middle class 8% of his tax cuts, and then give the richest 5% of Americans 51% of his tax cuts.

And if Trump wins he will stop/eliminate over $1 trillion dollars in needed infrastructure repairs spending and needed spending on education (because Trump will give that money to the richest 5% of Americans in tax cuts.)

Promises and Price Tags: A Fiscal Guide to the 2016 Election | Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget

Donald Trump's Tax Plan Would Cost $12 Trillion | CTJReports


How does Trump represent the interests of ordinary people?
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Old 11-07-2016, 01:55 PM
 
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I doesn't matter what Trump is. It's all about what he will do for Americans. We all know what to expect with Clinton but at least with Trump we may have some hope. I like most other voters believe we need to "drain the swamp." I also believe that a Jerry Springer show called the democratic and republican parties is nothing more than a dog and pony show to give the illusion that votes really matter. Clinton had the democratic primary sewn up with the super delegates. Sen Sanders was nothing but a sideshow. Now it looks like Clinton has the electoral votes sewn up. I hope I am wrong and Trump is elected but I believe will see Clinton spread her war wings and take us to another useless war.

I would much rather see Trump negotiate with Putin than Clinton fire ICBM's at him.
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Old 11-07-2016, 01:56 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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He may have worked but he was born on 3rd base, purports to be for the "people" but has proposed tax policies that will comfort the comfortable, financially benefit him and screw the working class.

Deplorable Donald is a fantastic scam artist....gives Father Coughlin and George Wallace a run for their money.

The paranoid style in American politics is alive and well in the 21st Century...unfortunately.
So your mad a Donald for following the tax laws career politicians like Hillary Clinton passed after taking bribes?
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Old 11-07-2016, 01:59 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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So your mad a Donald for following the tax laws career politicians like Hillary Clinton passed after taking bribes?
Is that any different than a Clinton legally taking the $$$ they can get for giving a speech, etc.?

Sounds like ' pot? this is kettle' to me.
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Old 11-07-2016, 02:00 PM
 
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Donald Trumps tax cuts will raise our national debt to 127% of GDP (when Hillary Clinton will keep our debt at 87% of GDP.)

And Donald Trump is a republican and republicans practice supply side/trickle down economics. Trumps tax cuts will give the middle class 8% of his tax cuts, and then give the richest 5% of Americans 51% of his tax cuts.

And if Trump wins he will stop/eliminate over $1 trillion dollars in needed infrastructure repairs spending and needed spending on education (because Trump will give that money to the richest 5% of Americans in tax cuts.)

Promises and Price Tags: A Fiscal Guide to the 2016 Election | Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget

Donald Trump's Tax Plan Would Cost $12 Trillion | CTJReports


How does Trump represent the interests of ordinary people?


Over 700 US companies have left the United States in the past years. Examples include Google, Apple, and Paypal. They all have fled to countries like Ireland which have some of the lowest corporate and business Taxes in the world. These companies also bring their jobs with them. Obama/Hillary's tax plans are a disaster and Hillary's tax increase has been de-bunked and proven to be unknown . One thing for sure is....her tax plan would still raise the national debt. We need jobs here. More Jobs=More Tax revenue.


He represents "ordinary" people, because the man employs ordinary people. He has worked with ordinary people.



https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-us-investment
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Old 11-07-2016, 02:06 PM
 
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Well, pick your poison, some one who's "astonishingly ignorant" or someone who exploits foreign relations for the sacrifice of the nation for their own personal wealth and for those that also surround them.

What amazes me between the two sets of supporters is that Trump voters can agree on his flaws..while Hillary supporters are willfully ignorant of hers and brazenly pretend that they just aren't there.
Don't change the subject. There's a reason Trump hasn't been chased down for a think tank or - the mind boggles - is being consulted on foreign policy. And it has nothing to do with Hillary Clinton.
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Old 11-07-2016, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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So your mad a Donald for following the tax laws career politicians like Hillary Clinton passed after taking bribes?
Re-read what I wrote! I said NOTHING about CURRENT tax policy nor about Trump's paying or not paying taxes in the past. I wrote about Trump's tax proposal (if elected) which would change current tax policy and tilt it in favor of the wealthy and stick a fork up the azzes of working stiffs.
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Old 11-07-2016, 02:41 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Over 700 US companies have left the United States in the past years. Examples include Google, Apple, and Paypal. They all have fled to countries like Ireland which have some of the lowest corporate and business Taxes in the world. These companies also bring their jobs with them. Obama/Hillary's tax plans are a disaster and Hillary's tax increase has been de-bunked and proven to be unknown . One thing for sure is....her tax plan would still raise the national debt. We need jobs here. More Jobs=More Tax revenue.


He represents "ordinary" people, because the man employs ordinary people. He has worked with ordinary people.



https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-us-investment
Large American corporations have an average effective tax rate of 12.6% (one of the lowest rates in the world.)
GAO: U.S. corporations pay average effective tax rate of 12.6% - Jul. 1, 2013

And 20% of large and profitable US corporations literally pay 0% tax rates. Who runs from a 0% tax rate?
20% of big companies pay zero corporate taxes - Apr. 13, 2016


And as your source says corporations like Google and PayPal are building centers in Europe to get into the European market. And overall US investment in Europe is falling and US investment in Ireland is increasing. I assume these corporations are choosing Ireland because of friendly tax policies.

But nothing above changes the fact these corporations are going to Europe to break into the European market (not to evade high American tax rates.)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-us-investment


And this thread is about how Donald Trump will help ordinary Americans. And Trump's tax cuts that will give the middle class 8% of his tax cuts and give the richest 5% of Americans 51% of his tax cuts are not going to do that.

Donald Trump's Tax Plan Would Cost $12 Trillion | CTJReports
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