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It's truly ironic that self-identified "conservatives" are waiting for government (Trump) to help them out, isn't it?
You obviously haven't been paying attention. You know Ford is shipping 2,000 jobs to Mexico right?
In the mind of a lib.tard, that doesn't mean anything.
You obviously haven't been paying attention. You know Ford is shipping 2,000 jobs to Mexico right?
In the mind of a lib.tard, that doesn't mean anything.
So how is Trump going to get those jobs back?
Carrier, for example, is moving to Mexico because they can pay workers there $3 per hour. In Indiana, Carrier had to pay $20 per hour. How is Trump going to force them to move their operations back to the United States?
They are good paying jobs though that don't require a 4 year degree from a state school or for profit school. A pipefitter or boilermaker goes through an apprenticeship that has it's own schooling system within union halls. The loony lefties don't like jobs like that and think those people are beneath them that's why you see them talking smack on blue collar workers in large cities.
I'm not disagreeing on the type of manufacturing the US should lean on we really just need to emulate whatever Germany is doing. Assembly line type jobs or jobs that are mostly automated but require someone overseeing them are the the jobs that have been disappearing but even then there are still some out there.
What makes you think lefties think the trades are beneath them? We have the left to thank for the 40 hour work week, workmans comp and social security.......
You obviously haven't been paying attention. You know Ford is shipping 2,000 jobs to Mexico right?
In the mind of a lib.tard, that doesn't mean anything.
If you want government to stop capitalists from having the freedom to do what they want, that's liberal* not conservative*. Right?
The conservative thing to do is to blame the victims of those job losses and tell them to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.
*by the contemporary definitions of those terms. It can be confusing because the term "neoliberalism" is often used for free-trade/globalization.
I don't think we can get the back but we can CERTAINLY stop them from leaving and thats a step in the right direction.
Can you tell me exactly how 45 will prevent big, greedy manufacturing concerns from moving their operations to other countries? It's just a matter of simple economics in my eyes. Cheap labor in poorer countries will always beat out overpriced labor in rich ones.
Access to the market I suppose is some leverage. Good luck getting the US to help out with intellectual property laws or if China decides to start selling its own Coke TM.
Also getting the laws and regulations in line with trade partners will also help. I also don't think people understand that the US is cut off from these same markets.
Can you tell me exactly how 45 will prevent big, greedy manufacturing concerns from moving their operations to other countries? It's just a matter of simple economics in my eyes. Cheap labor in poorer countries will always beat out overpriced labor in rich ones.
Impose very expensive tariffs/taxing to any jerk, greedy CEO/executive even THINKING about outsourcing their operations? Just like Trump has said he will do. And rip up these NAFTA deals
If you want government to stop capitalists from having the freedom to do what they want, that's liberal* not conservative*. Right?
The conservative thing to do is to blame the victims of those job losses and tell them to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.
*by the contemporary definitions of those terms. It can be confusing because the term "neoliberalism" is often used for free-trade/globalization.
Free trade, a loaded term, is classical liberalism. That's where it originates. Its obviously sound with absolute advantages like coconuts being grown in the tropics. Comparative advantages is also good when the arrangement can be trusted.
Neoclassical trade does not seem to care about national security risks , or maintaining an industrial base( as if once the trade partner drives the competition out of business it will not become a monopoly). Its as if they think a sports team should import practice , and only play when its an actual game. Patent protection isn't free trade. Its a protected market to allow an industry to develop.
Neoliberal trade does not care if trade is subsidized by the military, uses prison labor or pollutes... The US uses trade embargo as a weapon all the time , and yet, the so called economist never ceases to explain how free trade always makes economic sense. The British cut off our tea, twice. Hitchhiking makes economic sense too. I encourage neoclassical economists to economize . After all , bad ideologies often go away one funeral at a time.
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