Down Ballot Fallout: Colorado Rejects Single Payer Health Care (wages, health care system, Clinton)

[DRob4JC]

Rejected 80-20. This is the same state that electorally chose HRC. I do like that this was initiated by the state instead of the feds.

Single-Payer Health Care System Rejected, Colorado Votes Down Amendment 69

If it had passed, Colorado would have opted out of the Affordable Care Act and replaced it with a health care plan paid for by a payroll tax.

Employers would have had to pay a new tax of about 7 percent of workers’ wages. Employees would have had a payroll tax of about 3 percent. There would have been no deductibles or co-pays. The funds would have be transferred into a separate authority run by an elected board of directors.

[PCALMike]

The big pharma and insurance companies poured in tremendous amounts of millions to stop this from passing and it had an effect.

Of course, we know that the social darwinists who claim that they really support "state's rights to choose a single payer system" just say that because they know its far, far more difficult to run such a system through a single state than a federal program.

[DRob4JC]

Originally Posted by PCALMike

The big pharma and insurance companies poured in tremendous amounts of millions to stop this from passing and it had an effect.

Of course, we know that the social darwinists who claim that they really support "state's rights to choose a single payer system" just say that because they know its far, far more difficult to run such a system through a single state than a federal program.

Tried to get the angle on Big Pharma...

Establishment Dems Fight to Defeat 'Medicare-for-All' in Colorado

Indeed, in Colorado the "anti-single-payer effort is funded almost entirely by health care industry interests," Fang reported, "including $500,000 from Anthem Inc., the state’s largest health insurance provider; $40,000 from Cigna, another large health insurer that is current in talks to merge with Anthem; $75,000 from Davita, the dialysis company; $25,000 from Delta Dental, the largest dental insurer in the state; and $100,000 from SCL Health, the faith-based hospital chain."

Moreover, Clinton herself "has received $13.2m in donations from the health sector over the years, according to nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. This well-funded industry is also the chief financial backer of the effort to destroy ColoradoCare," notes the Guardian.

"There is huge money from the [health insurance] industry involved in financing not only the campaign against ColoradoCare, but also in financing the politicians who decide on health care legislation," Owen Perkins, communications director for ColoradoCareYes, a group advocating for the ballot measure, told the Guardian.

"The role that big money, big medicine plays in funding campaigns and influencing political votes is certainly a good reason to take [healthcare] out of the insurance industry and politicians and put it in the hands of the people," Perkins added.

OK - so it looks like Big Pharma wants to deal with people they know benefit them... the feds.

The Sanders wing voted in favor of this. They seem to be the only supporters.

Last paragraph - putting in the hands of the people does not mean individual responsibility to them, but a collective endeavor.

I read another article that said it would cover 100,000+ people not covered. Based on arguments from years past, why would that not be a good idea to get those people covered?

[Mircea]

Originally Posted by PCALMike

The big pharma and insurance companies poured in tremendous amounts of millions to stop this from passing and it had an effect.

Trounced 80% against and 20% for, is more than just "an effect [sic]."

Originally Posted by PCALMike

Of course, we know that the social darwinists who claim that they really support "state's rights to choose a single payer system" just say that because they know its far, far more difficult to run such a system through a single state than a federal program.

And yet you constantly hold out Euro-States as an example.

[Dequindre]

And this was a state that Clinton won.

[Toyman at Jewel Lake]

So the people of CO looked at another huge tax increase and said Not just No, but Hell No. Guess they aren't all stoned after all. Good for them.

[FirebirdCamaro1220]

Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake

So the people of CO looked at another huge tax increase and said Not just No, but Hell No. Guess they aren't all stoned after all. Good for them.

The extra tax would have been worth it for NO DEDUCTIBLES OR CO-PAYS, or did you miss that part?

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake

So the people of CO looked at another huge tax increase and said Not just No, but Hell No. Guess they aren't all stoned after all. Good for them.

You seem to not realize that this would have replaced the current healthcare insurance system. These people would not be paying for private health insurance anyone.

3% is likely far less than most are paying now.

[elan]

"Colorado Rejects Single Payer Health Care"

Yes, but they can swallow the black pill now.