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You're missing a BIG piece of the puzzle. Women who can't afford the children they bear aren't doing so because of any supposed lack of access to contraceptives. There's an entirely different and quite surprising reason for why many do so. Many minorities won't use any of the various easily available and in many cases free to them contraceptives because fully 1/3 of teens and young adults believe the government is pushing contraception as a means to deliberately limit the size of minority populations.
Women don't have to pay for the consequences. If they bear a child they can't afford to support they just go on welfare, Medicaid, WIC, food stamps, etc., etc. Our government actually INCENTIVIZES doing so by financially rewarding those who do.
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Give me a break - the article is dated 1 day after the election and shows what 4/5 posts but again the liberal media wants the reader to think that women are rushing in droves to the gyn.
Ponderosa - what a farce - I expect better from you!
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So what about Viagra?
Many health insurance companies pay for those.
And many don't.
The fact is... the government should not be in the sex business. Nowhere in the constitution nor the powers that are given the federal government does it say that birth control is a right nor a privilege. And if you want to get technical about it... The States are where the control of Public Health and Safety resides but even then do birth control and sex issues fall under that umbrella? Personally, I don't think so.
An insurance company should have the right to either offer the coverage or not as they see fit. Thusly, if you want the coverage...fine... you pay for it. Don't need it... different coverage, don't pay for it. Explain to me why I need to pay for either. Husband doesn't need Viagra and I don't need birth control. Also, explain to me why we BOTH have maternity coverage while your at it? Neither of us need it as well. It sounds to me like you just want someone else to pay for your activities and jealous that the insurance company is paying for someone else's. From a personal standpoint....I personally don't want to be paying for either......
The fact is... the government should not be in the sex business. Nowhere in the constitution nor the powers that are given the federal government does it say that birth control is a right nor a privilege. And if you want to get technical about it... The States are where the control of Public Health and Safety resides but even then do birth control and sex issues fall under that umbrella? Personally, I don't think so.
An insurance company should have the right to either offer the coverage or not as they see fit. Thusly, if you want the coverage...fine... you pay for it. Don't need it... different coverage, don't pay for it. Explain to me why I need to pay for either. Husband doesn't need Viagra and I don't need birth control. Also, explain to me why we BOTH have maternity coverage while your at it? Neither of us need it as well. It sounds to me like you just want someone else to pay for your activities and jealous that the insurance company is paying for someone else's. From a personal standpoint....I personally don't want to be paying for either......
Ok,fair argument.
Healthcare insurance will not be used for birth control and viagra,except when they are prescribed for other things.
Birth control to prevent a birth? No,use a condom.
Birth control to regulate heavy menstrual bleeding? Yes,they should cover THAT.
Viagra because you cant maintain an erection? too bad,use a rubber band.
Viagra for a heart condition? yes,that should be covered.
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Ok,fair argument.
Healthcare insurance will not be used for birth control and viagra,except when they are prescribed for other things.
Birth control to prevent a birth? No,use a condom.
Birth control to regulate heavy menstrual bleeding? Yes,they should cover THAT.
Viagra because you cant maintain an erection? too bad,use a rubber band.
Viagra for a heart condition? yes,that should be covered.
I could probably get behind that... Let's take Zyban and Wellbuterin (sp?) for example. Go to a doctor and tell them you want to quit smoking and if you can't take Chantix they will give you Zyban. The insurance will deny it... You pay on your own. Go to the same doctor... tell him you need some chill pills and he prescribes Wellbuterin... they will pay for that. But here's the kicker.... It's the same exact drug. Just used to treat different reasons......
Women don't have to pay for the consequences. If they bear a child they can't afford to support they just go on welfare, Medicaid, WIC, food stamps, etc., etc. Our government actually INCENTIVIZES doing so by financially rewarding those who do.
What do you think should be done with the children of those who can't afford to provide for them?
And.....BTW......financially caring for a child isn't just a woman's job. For every woman and child out there on welfare there this is a baby daddy who isn't supporting the child either. Men aren't paying for the consequences either yet you fail to mention that. Why?
Ok,fair argument.
Healthcare insurance will not be used for birth control and viagra,except when they are prescribed for other things.
Birth control to prevent a birth? No,use a condom.
Birth control to regulate heavy menstrual bleeding? Yes,they should cover THAT.
Viagra because you cant maintain an erection? too bad,use a rubber band.
Viagra for a heart condition? yes,that should be covered.
Unlike pregnancy, a man being unable to sustain an erection is not putting his health or life at risk.
Pregnancy and childbirth puts a woman's health and life at risk. Therefore, preventing pregnancy should be looked at as preventative healthcare.
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