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Old 11-13-2016, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I was a sailor for 2 years, and in that time I carried for one day during which time I was transporting a prisoner. The rest of the time I had no reason to carry. My duties would have made it a nuisance.
I'm talking about if you want to. If you don't thats all you but why bar our upstanding men and women who's job is to protect us from enemies foriegn and domestic from carrying if they want to?

 
Old 11-13-2016, 11:05 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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I mean really? They are the military. If anyone's is trustworthy enough to carry a gun while on duty its the military. So what was the logic behind banning them from carrying on base? It would've prevented things like Fort Hood.
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...there is none...
The Founding fathers basically said that if you are not fighting a war, you are a civilian. They actually agreed that they shouldn't have guns when not actually fighting.(federalist papers)
 
Old 11-14-2016, 04:48 AM
 
Location: Elysium
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And yet we send them overseas to fight for us?
Yes with the belief that it is among the best armies in human history. Even after 15 years of war the belief remains that fighting between soldiers turning lethal is probably a greater danger than an attack from the enemy at most installations. And in most cases a guard force with less lethal weapons can hold the line long enough for the MP reaction force to stop the threat
 
Old 11-14-2016, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The origin of the policy goes back to the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, which prohibits the federal government from using the military for domestic law enforcement.

Members of the U.S. armed forces don’t routinely carry guns when they are not in combat or on military bases unless they are engaged in military policing duties.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act
Actually its a lot more recent than that. While the details are a little complicated, the fact remains it was a directive by Bush.

Clinton Disarmed Soldiers on Military Bases? : snopes.com

And glancing over your article it didn't say anything about banning military personal from carrying firearms. It only bans them from acting as police on civilians.
 
Old 11-14-2016, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The Founding fathers basically said that if you are not fighting a war, you are a civilian. They actually agreed that they shouldn't have guns when not actually fighting.(federalist papers)
Do you have a link?
 
Old 11-14-2016, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Yes with the belief that it is among the best armies in human history. Even after 15 years of war the belief remains that fighting between soldiers turning lethal is probably a greater danger than an attack from the enemy at most installations. And in most cases a guard force with less lethal weapons can hold the line long enough for the MP reaction force to stop the threat
To use your logic, there have been police on police murders and they carry guns pretty much everywhere here in the US.
 
Old 11-14-2016, 10:28 AM
 
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"Frag the Looie" ring any bells?
 
Old 11-14-2016, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Florida
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"Frag the Looie" ring any bells?
No. I don't watch to many movies.
 
Old 11-14-2016, 12:53 PM
 
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I mean really? They are the military. If anyone's is trustworthy enough to carry a gun while on duty its the military. So what was the logic behind banning them from carrying on base? It would've prevented things like Fort Hood.
Guns scare whussies!

Look at how so may are acting just because Trump won.

Imagine how they would act if the saw a gun!

OH, the HORRORS!
 
Old 11-14-2016, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Elysium
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"Frag the Looie" ring any bells?
By that time "L.T." was being used and Lou was the term their fathers had used.
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