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Old 11-14-2016, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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^so embarrassed by gore that he manufactures this weak rebuttal
Not at all embarrassed by Gore, almost all of his predictions are happening as we speak. The planet broke every major record for high temperatures this year, the truly startling part of that is the record each month broke was the previous month. Month after sweltering month saw this record broken time after time. Yet conservatives close their eyes and put their fingers in their ears, just like little children. It's sad.

My mention of Gore was that he has somehow morphed into the voice of science and climate change amongst the scientifically illiterate, when the man is the voice of nothing other than himself. There are far more educated people on the subject discussing the issue than Gore, who literally has not been heard from on the subject for years.

People who bring his name up always have a very limited scope and understanding of science.
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Old 11-14-2016, 12:45 PM
 
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I can totally understand peoples frustrations with bureaucracy when it is not rooted in either common sense or experience. I understand the EPA can be a real PITA for people who have deal with all of their regulations. There is nothing wrong with streamlining the EPA and getting rid of regulations that have little or no actual benefit.
The most PITA part of any bureaucracy is they make it almost impossible to dispute.

Again, let me remind people that I am a liberal progressive. I'd like to leave behind a nice green and clean planet.
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Old 11-14-2016, 12:59 PM
 
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They should combine the EPA, the Energy Dept. and the Interior Dept. And the Education Dept. should go back to HHS to be HEW again.
DOI should consume Department of Energy and Department of Agriculture.

Department of Commerce should take in Department of Labor and Department of Transportation.

Should transfer power of the Department's of Housing and Urban Development and Education to the States.

Do away with the Department of Homeland Security or let the DOD take it over.

Be 8 Cabinet Positions.
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Old 11-14-2016, 01:27 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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This is wonderful!
The EPA keeps our air, water, and land safe from hazardous chemicals created by modern society. But the large corporations that fund the republican party want the EPA abolished and stripped of its power because the EPA decreases profits in large corporations by stopping them from freely polluting.

If the EPA is abolished many more chemicals will be released that will do things like give our children cancer. And whats the republican response? "This is wonderful!"


https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...licans-abolish

https://thinkprogress.org/the-republ...e61#.3ly7eyizs

Last edited by chad3; 11-14-2016 at 01:39 PM..
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Old 11-14-2016, 01:39 PM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Well Trump is a business man at heart and any good business man that takes over a company is going to trim the fat and make that company run better, more efficiently and cheaper.

Workers at the EPA and any other agency should be concerned especially if they are not essential.


I think it will be great if Trump holds people responsible for their jobs. There are too many that just go through the motions for the paycheck.

Trim the Fat and Drain the Swamp.

Exactly. Have two relatives that work for the EPA. Always bragging about how little they do.

The first task is to identify and terminate the activist-types that abuse their authority.

These mere employees have become defacto lawmakers in recent years. Harassing ranchers and homeowners for imaginary infractions.
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Old 11-14-2016, 01:39 PM
 
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So, tell me, do you want the Department of Defense decimated too?
Yep
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Old 11-14-2016, 01:41 PM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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The EPA keeps our air, water, and land safe from hazardous chemicals created by modern society. But the large corporations that fund the republican party want the EPA abolished and stripped of its power because the EPA decreases profits in large corporations by stopping them from freely polluting.

If the EPA is abolished many more chemicals will be released that will do things like give our children cancer. And whats the republican response? "This is wonderful!"


https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...licans-abolish

https://thinkprogress.org/the-republ...e61#.3ly7eyizs
They do? It is?
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Old 11-14-2016, 01:59 PM
 
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Not at all embarrassed by Gore, almost all of his predictions are happening as we speak. The planet broke every major record for high temperatures this year, the truly startling part of that is the record each month broke was the previous month. Month after sweltering month saw this record broken time after time. Yet conservatives close their eyes and put their fingers in their ears, just like little children. It's sad.

My mention of Gore was that he has somehow morphed into the voice of science and climate change amongst the scientifically illiterate, when the man is the voice of nothing other than himself. There are far more educated people on the subject discussing the issue than Gore, who literally has not been heard from on the subject for years.

People who bring his name up always have a very limited scope and understanding of science.

AND THEN continued to cool DOWN over the last 8 months . . . .

Record Global Cooling Over The Last Eight Months | The Deplorable Climate Science Blog

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Old 11-14-2016, 02:02 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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They do? It is?
Last year the EPA's Clean Air Act alone saved 160,000 lives. And in 2010, reductions in fine particle and ozone pollution because of the EPA led to 130,000 fewer heart attacks and 1.7 million fewer asthma attacks.

Number of lives saved by U.S. Clean Air Act continues to grow: Opponents trying to repeal protections

But unfortunately republicans want to abolish the EPA so the large corporations have -0- pollution regulations.
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Old 11-14-2016, 02:03 PM
 
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Yet you and yours resort exactly to that. Amazing levels of projection from the right.
1. I'm not on the right
2. Dogma means saying things like "the science is settled" and the "debate is over" or "the 97% consensus"
Which side has been saying that?
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