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You might as well have a national popular vote. They would campaign only in areas that would yield the most votes.
The problems with that have already been raised with no answers, and the electoral college is "baked in" to the constitution, so it has to be addressed.
The MIT plan addresses it.
It would work. Read what I posted. It isn't rocket science.
The President-elect sure raised a bunch of questions about the fairness of of the Electoral College back in 2012, and was claiming the election was "rigged" until he won.
The current system mitigates voter fraud and makes it harder to steal an election. It's possible especially if it comes down to one key swing state.
Take the number of electoral votes a state gets, and then divide it out according to the popular vote within that state. No more winner-take-all. The proportion of the state's divvied up electoral votes will actually reflect what the populace voted for. In California, instead of 55 electoral votes going to Clinton, only 36 might go to Clinton, while 19 go to Trump.
I think this would actually increase campaigning in rural areas, because solid red states are likely to be relatively overlooked because it's taken for granted that their electoral votes will all go to the GOP. Same thing with blue states. Their Republicans are always overlooked.
You get the benefit of each state being key players, as well as every voter in each of those states finally being able to really make a difference outside of swing states.
Wow, this is actually a great way to do it. Proportional ballots make a lot of sense.
So you don't think that losing an election by 600K votes and still getting the office deserves even a minor question raised about the system that creates that scenario?
The system's been in place for all this time, but because the Lefties wanted to make history and elect the first female president, this is why all this BS is happening. Why didn't Lefties go crazy when Gore lost the election back in 2000?
I'm sure if it was the other way around you guys would be demanding it remain intact.
So it's team sports, not a rational discussion.
Actually, I think that if Trump won by 600K votes and lost the election, you'd have militia nut cases taking over federal buildings with guns, and I think it might be wise to avoid that scenario, regardless of how partisan you are.
Just put down the partisan cap for 30 seconds, if it's possible for you to function outside that bubble for that long.
The system's been in place for all this time, but because the Lefties wanted to make history and elect the first female president, this is why all this BS is happening. Why didn't Lefties go crazy when Gore lost the election back in 2000?
I guess you aren't old enough to have remembered that the issue was raised then also and was the subject of discussion for months.
Most likely the Iraq invasion would have never happened. So yeah, this happening twice in 16 years is cause for concern.
So you must think it's equal and fair when 10 individuals decide to gang up on one person?
Not at all, I also don't think this parallel is at all accurate. In this case, your small population is worth more than a larger states population massively. It completely negates the votes of people in states that are solid blue or red.
I like the idea of these proportional points, every state has the same amount of electoral votes and the same amount of power as before, but represents more accurately each person which would encourage more voters in EVERY state.
The current system mitigates voter fraud and makes it harder to steal an election. It's possible especially if it comes down to one key swing state.
And what created swing states? The current system.
Your argument is invalid.
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