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Old 01-14-2018, 07:29 PM
 
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This thread is another example of how hysterical the libs are.
But mostly how conned most right wingers are.
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Old 01-14-2018, 07:31 PM
 
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Wow, that might be a great record. Obama lied every time he opened his mouth!
Baloney!
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Old 01-14-2018, 07:41 PM
 
Location: FL
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Blah, blah, blah. All the ACA did was essentially paper over the high cost of health care with taxpayer money.

The ACA caused health care costs to surge. Only the upper middle class could pay for the skyrocketing insurance premiums, and it is breaking their wallets. This cost the people billions of dollars, for expanded Medicaid, and the new ACA federal subsidy.

The poor and lower middle class could not afford health care under the "Affordable" Health Care Act. The middle class were forced to go on the expanded Medicaid for the first time in their lives, and other middle class has to accept charity from their fellow citizens in the form of ACA subsidies.

So if your measure of "success" is how many more people were owed their health and welfare to federal government handouts, via increased taxes, then the ACA was a brilliant success.

We could have held a figurative gun to people's heads before 2010, by having the federal government demand every person must buy health care insurance, and magically, everyone would be getting health care insurance, or be punished.

The measure of a good health care system is anyone at or near the middle class can afford their own health care expenses, whether its thru employed insurance, self-insured, thru a health care coop, health savings accounts and/or any mix of these things.



Clearly you do not know that in any plan anyone has come up with so far, millions will still choose to go without health care insurance. Even under the ACA we still had the ugly specter with the same numbers of uninsured Americans.

Like i said, all the ACA did was attempt to wall paper over everything with billions in taxpayer dollars.



That is a tired excuse, to just paint with a broad brush and claim anything anyone without a (D) after their name comes up with "would be even worse." Let's not stoop to that, shall we?
Republicans have had 8 years to work on affordable health care. How are they doing with that?
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Old 01-14-2018, 07:43 PM
 
Location: FL
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Wow, that might be a great record. Obama lied every time he opened his mouth!
President Donald Trump has told nearly six times more lies in the first 10 months of his presidency than former President Barack Obama did in his entire 8-year term, according to data collected and published Thursday in the New York Times
How the Quantity of Trump's Lies Compares to Obama's: NYT | Fortune
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Old 01-15-2018, 02:00 AM
 
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Republicans have had 8 years to work on affordable health care. How are they doing with that?
What happened to Trump's more affordable and more people covered plan?
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Old 01-15-2018, 02:08 AM
 
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President Donald Trump has told nearly six times more lies in the first 10 months of his presidency than former President Barack Obama did in his entire 8-year term, according to data collected and published Thursday in the New York Times
How the Quantity of Trump's Lies Compares to Obama's: NYT | Fortune
Does Trump even know what the truth is?
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Old 01-15-2018, 02:09 AM
 
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"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes."

Mark Twain
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Old 01-15-2018, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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POTUS has again showed us his lying ways. His statement on no collusion, on NK, Russia investigation, and now his racist rants.

So many items that they would take up pages of space even on CD.

POTUS needs to have some consequences shown from the Congress, for his lying.

Children should be punished before age 71.
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Old 01-15-2018, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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POTUS trying to deflect from his racist history. He has killed a bi-partisan agreement. We will see another short term extension on spending with no changes.
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Old 01-15-2018, 07:43 AM
 
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POTUS trying to deflect from his racist history. He has killed a bi-partisan agreement. We will see another short term extension on spending with no changes.
Is there a limit to the number of these short-term extensions or can we just operate like this on into eternity?
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