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Old 11-27-2016, 02:26 PM
 
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I asked why some people would try to excuse this woman's use of racial slurs. I gather by lack of a response this conclusion. Her actions represent how some people feel but don't have the courage to admit. I don't know what else to gather from it.
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Old 12-21-2016, 07:54 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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I think the teacher was being brutally honest and trying to help these students out. Unfortunatley we live in the liberal utopia PC world. Sadly because of it im sure a lot of these students will end up in gangs and end up ruining their lives.
Isn't liberalism just marvelous!!!


https://www.yahoo.com/news/baltimore...203208389.html
I haven't read the rest of the thread but teachers do their students a service by telling the truth. It should be praised, not punished.

Why are we spending money on schools for students who refuse to learn?
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Old 12-21-2016, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Hyde Park, Los Angeles
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She should be fired, point blank.

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Double standard. Had she been black she would have been praised for "speaking the truth!"
Double standard, huh? Methinks you seriously want to use the N-word on a Black person. Just be honest.

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No, she wouldn't have. No teacher of any race is allowed to use that kind of language in a classroom, nor are they supposed to be allowed to stir up racial tension. I have had black colleagues fired, put on leave, or non-renewed over similar stunts. I failed a minority student teacher last spring over something more benign. A classroom is for education, not indoctrination.
Bingo!

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Its only news because the teacher was white. Had she been black I doubt we would have even heard a peep about it.
And how's that a bad thing? While I agree the students need to take responsibility for their behavior, she acted in prejudice and ignorance; she deserves to be put on blast.
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Old 12-22-2016, 08:07 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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No, she wouldn't have. No teacher of any race is allowed to use that kind of language in a classroom, nor are they supposed to be allowed to stir up racial tension. I have had black colleagues fired, put on leave, or non-renewed over similar stunts. I failed a minority student teacher last spring over something more benign. A classroom is for education, not indoctrination.
Is there anything wrong with a teacher telling their students that they are on a losing course? When they get out of school or drop out some will meet the fate of Michael Brown with their antics. If their parents won't tell them because they don't care, who will?
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Old 12-22-2016, 08:13 AM
 
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Is there anything wrong with a teacher telling their students that they are on a losing course? When they get out of school or drop out some will meet the fate of Michael Brown with their antics. If their parents won't tell them because they don't care, who will?
There is something wrong with a teacher cursing out their students and using racial slurs. No excuses for that, period.
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Old 12-22-2016, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Is there anything wrong with a teacher telling their students that they are on a losing course? When they get out of school or drop out some will meet the fate of Michael Brown with their antics. If their parents won't tell them because they don't care, who will?
You can tell them that, but it's HOW you tell them that is what matters.
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“You’re idiots!...You have the chance to get an education, but you want to be a punk-a** n***** who’s gonna get shot.â€

One student can be heard pleading with the teacher to “stop saying that,†as she continues to call the class “stupid†and threatens to give them “zeros for doing nothing.â€
It's sad when a child is more level-headed and rational than the teacher.

Even if she had not used a racial slur, she never should have called the entire classroom a bunch of "idiots". You don't say that to kids that you are teaching. If they are a bunch of "idiots", I guess she wasn't doing a good job. I'm glad she got fired.
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Old 12-22-2016, 08:19 AM
 
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She should probably pursue a different line of work.
I agree. This job is not a good fit.

Let me see, in what setting could one hurl insults at others and get away with it. Prison guard, perhaps?
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Old 12-22-2016, 08:30 AM
 
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You can tell them that, but it's HOW you tell them that is what matters.


It's sad when a child is more level-headed and rational than the teacher.

Even if she had not used a racial slur, she never should have called the entire classroom a bunch of "idiots". You don't say that to kids that you are teaching. If they are a bunch of "idiots", I guess she wasn't doing a good job. I'm glad she got fired.
Anytime a student is more levelheaded than the teacher, there is a problem. There were better ways to get her message across. People who are trying to make excuses for her actions are just exposing their own covert racism.
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Old 12-22-2016, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I would like to know what led up to this behavior. It could be justified if we saw the reason for this outburst. The fellow kicked out could have used said language and she could have been using language to make a stronger point. Hard to judge.
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Old 12-22-2016, 09:02 AM
 
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I would like to know what led up to this behavior. It could be justified if we saw the reason for this outburst. The fellow kicked out could have used said language and she could have been using language to make a stronger point. Hard to judge.
I really don't care what led up to that. I've seen a teacher get cursed out and pushed, and he didn't react like that.
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