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Old 11-18-2016, 08:37 PM
 
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A few years ago, I brought my family to a very large commercial orchard to pick fruits on a weekend day. Everything was nice and pleasant, and we all had a great time, until near the end of the trip we came across something that saddened me: in a far corner of the orchard, there were a few rows of trailers that houses many Mexican labors working there. Their living conditions looked horrible.

That made me thinking, these farm workers do the kind of jobs at a pay that no Americans would accept. We all like low prices at grocery stores to keep cost of living and inflation low, if these people are gone, why would everything just become great again?
Sure they will just have to raise their wages. I've done monotonous harvest work before and when it pays enough there is no need to hire illegals. Plenty or traveling us citizens could use this work.
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Old 11-18-2016, 08:39 PM
 
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Sure they will just have to raise their wages. I've done monotonous harvest work before and when it pays enough there is no need to hire illegals. Plenty or traveling us citizens could use this work.
Yeah, once we have another great depression, I guess people will be willing to do any kind of work they can get.
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Old 11-18-2016, 08:54 PM
 
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Yeah, once we have another great depression, I guess people will be willing to do any kind of work they can get.
I already do any kind of work I can get. As far as I'm concerned we're in a depression now. I just left an agracultural temp job last month actually. 12 hour days 7 days a week till it's done outside in the cold. There was one hispanic on our crew and I assume he was legal. All partially homeless white people and a few asians. I say partially because the ag company had camps for us to sleep in with no running water but porter poties. Some slept in their cars, and some had RVs. I know of at least 3 who slept in the bed of a truck with their dogs. NOBODY there was from the area. Everybody was out of state. Some just got done picking apples in washington, some picking blueberrys in oregon. Some picking garlic. Many are going to harvest/sell christmas trees. Some going to trim weed during their harvest, and some going to amazon to work in the fullfillment centers as temps.

My point is there is an abundance of people that want these agriculture temp jobs. The difference is they have to pay about $12 an hour, not $4 an hour or whatever the illegals are getting paid. Americans simply cannot live on a wage that low without converting them to pesos.

Americans absolutely do want these jobs, for a fair wage.
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Old 11-18-2016, 09:00 PM
 
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I think your are confusing migrant farm workers with illegal immigrants. Chances are those workers you saw were here legally and not illegals. I have toured several farming operations on California's central coast and those workers are migrant workers and they follow the harvests of various crops between the US and Mexico. Smaller operations might employ illegals but the bigger ones would have a harder time getting away with that. I picked grapes as a teenager in the 1990's and all of the workers I worked with were migrant workers working legally. So getting rid of illegals would have little effect on produce prices. Now the construction industry and restaurant/hospitality industries have a lot of illegals working for them.
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Old 11-18-2016, 09:06 PM
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To help offset the high prices of groceries, more Americans need to have their own "Victory gardens" like we did during WWII. In the cities, there could be more community gardens.

What happened to the 100 mile diet? Trying to only eat what is produced within a hundred miles of ones home.
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Old 11-18-2016, 09:21 PM
 
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I've said this before, the real chickens coming home to roost will be when the children of these illegals schooled by your tax dollars will be competing directly with your children for the same jobs.
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Old 11-18-2016, 09:24 PM
 
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I've said this before, the real chickens coming home to roost will be when the children of these illegals schooled by your tax dollars will be competing directly with your children for the same jobs.
And competing with an affirmative action boost.
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Old 11-19-2016, 06:32 AM
 
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but to answer the question posed by the OP--

Will rust belt unemployed do farm labor work that Mexicans do?

the answer will be ... "no"...
The answer would be yes if we got the government out of the way.
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Old 11-19-2016, 06:33 AM
 
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To help offset the high prices of groceries, more Americans need to have their own "Victory gardens" like we did during WWII. In the cities, there could be more community gardens.

What happened to the 100 mile diet? Trying to only eat what is produced within a hundred miles of ones home.
90% of Americans would even know what a garden is, much less how to grow one.
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Old 11-19-2016, 06:35 AM
 
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Sure they will just have to raise their wages. I've done monotonous harvest work before and when it pays enough there is no need to hire illegals. Plenty or traveling us citizens could use this work.
BTW, according to National Geographic, the average wage in 2010 for farm workers was $10.19. I'm sure it's higher now.
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