Marine Le Pen surges in French Polls

[Snowball7]

She can win this time.

Her father is still alive, too...


you know what else ? Italy referendum 12/4 could see Renzi leave
and the 5-star gain.

5 star wants a national referendum on Italexit.

[shiftymh]

Trumpism is powerful enough to make French people grow spines.

[BugsyPal]

Originally Posted by Suburban_Guy

Now, for some of those gushing over how it's now France's turn to have a 'revolution' like us, are you sure Trump is going to seriously crack down on illegal immigration and build the wall, and things of that sort? Because apparently Trump has already backtracked on his hardline stance on Muslims.

These are the things some of you believe Marine will do, right?

Leaving aside recent terrorist acts and the Muslim issue, France for some time has problems, problems no one in French society truly wants to address.


Large segments of the population of that country want to continue the fast social systems/way of life even as it is clear France cannot afford to do so; that and or such policies are causing all sorts of issues.


Have studied French language, culture and history since high school. Have visited the place often and have many, many friends. But am here to tell you here in New York City have never seen so many French persons in my life. Every where you go you hear them chattering away and so forth; reason they are here and over many other parts of the USA is clear; employment, especially for young persons. Quite simply there aren't jobs in France, and their bizarre and vast regulation of industry/employment sector is one of the reasons.


It simply isn't possible to start the sort of "tech sector" things you have here in the USA easily (if at all) in France. So those bright French entrepreneurs are leaving France for the USA, Israel and other places.


Just as with most other old Western industrialized nations including USA and much of Western Europe manufacturing has been slowly moving first to the East and now also Asia. Germany of course is another matter. France does have some bright spots in manufacturing (rail, military, etc..) but they cannot hope to employ the huge numbers needing work.


French love their labor protections and benefits (35 hour work week, long vacations, etc...) problem is the nation cannot afford such things any longer.

[BugsyPal]

Originally Posted by Snowball7

She can win this time.

Her father is still alive, too...


you know what else ? Italy referendum 12/4 could see Renzi leave
and the 5-star gain.

5 star wants a national referendum on Italexit.

Italians are not in a very good mood at the moment. Renzi pushing through gay marriage in the way he did may have been the icing on cake. It isn't helping that the country is being overrun with "migrants" by the thousands arriving on Italian shores monthly.


Larger issue is really same as France, Italy needs to get its fiscal house in order. Sadly you cannot make an omelet without cracking eggs, and reforming Italy's economy is going to cause pain most everywhere.