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Old 11-26-2016, 11:10 PM
 
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This would probably be a better point if people in cities weren't the ones who were killing each other and complaining about unfair allocation of spaces while they protest marched against each other.
Most violent crime is intra-racial though, whether we're talking about cities or rural areas. So the point still stands. In cities, people of various backgrounds get along with each other relatively well. And when they don't, they attack/kill other people of the same background.

https://www.ncjrs.gov/App/publicatio...aspx?ID=243356

So in order for your implied point to make sense, we'd have to assume that the mere presence of a black/Latino/gay community makes white people more likely to kill OTHER white people. Which doesn't make any god damn sense at all.

 
Old 11-26-2016, 11:41 PM
 
Location: London
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The not what's happening in cities especially democrat ran. It's just the opposite little cooperation, unfairly allocated resource, and lots of killing and crime.

You just made one of the better cases against Democrats and their policies.
True. But that is the goal behind why most city folks vote Democrat.

Does it work out well in practice? Eh.
 
Old 11-26-2016, 11:53 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Electoral college was designed to balance the power to ensure big cities cannot dictate over smaller cities.
 
Old 11-27-2016, 12:20 AM
 
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so is the electoral college like an affirmative action program for rural white Republicans then?
 
Old 11-27-2016, 02:47 AM
 
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I'm all for segregating and living under separate jurisdiction. You realize your diverse cities will turn into Detroit or worse when the conservatives and non-diverse leave don't you?
(Chuckle) Yeah, sure.

Said the same group that is running Kansas and most red states to the ground.
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Old 11-27-2016, 04:15 AM
 
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so is the electoral college like an affirmative action program for rural white Republicans then?
It's actually pretty impressive how many errors you managed to pack into one sentence.
 
Old 11-27-2016, 09:41 AM
 
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This would probably be a better point if people in cities weren't the ones who were killing each other and complaining about unfair allocation of spaces while they protest marched against each other.
When you pack people closer together, you tend to have more conflicts, murders, crime, etc. Because more people=more crime. It's part of the price paid for living closer together. Of course, it can be reigned in much better than it currently is. Keep in mind that crime stems from economic disinvestment, which itself comes from pro-suburban government policies stemming back to the 50s (and in some cases the 20s and 30s).

In other words, despite having the deck stacked against them, and despite all the strife within them caused by outside meddling, American cities still manage to be the centers of economic activity and productivity of our nation. Honestly that makes them more impressive.

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It's actually pretty impressive how many errors you managed to pack into one sentence.
Eh, I see his argument.
 
Old 11-27-2016, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I always recommend the book, "The Big Sort: Why the Clustering of Like-Minded America Is Tearing Us Apart" by Bill Bishop. It's a little bit old now but everyone who posts here would like it.

"America may be more diverse than ever coast to coast, but the places where we live are becoming increasingly crowded with people who live, think, and vote as we do. This social transformation didn't happen by accident. We’ve built a country where we can all choose the neighborhood -- and religion and news show -- most compatible with our lifestyle and beliefs. And we are living with the consequences of this way-of-life segregation. Our country has become so polarized, so ideologically inbred, that people don’t know and can’t understand those who live just a few miles away. In 2004, the journalist Bill Bishop, armed with original and startling demographic data, made national news in a series of articles showing how Americans have been sorting themselves over the past three decades into alarmingly homogeneous communities -- not by region or by red state or blue state, but by city and even neighborhood. In The Big Sort, Bishop deepens his analysis in a brilliantly reported book that makes its case from the ground up, starting with stories about how we live today and then drawing on history, economics, and our changing political landscape to create one of the most compelling big-picture accounts of America in recent memory."

https://books.google.com/books?id=NX...gbs_navlinks_s


https://www.amazon.com/Big-Sort-Clus.../dp/0547237723
 
Old 11-27-2016, 09:54 AM
 
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When you pack people closer together, you tend to have more conflicts, murders, crime, etc. Because more people=more crime. It's part of the price paid for living closer together. Of course, it can be reigned in much better than it currently is. Keep in mind that crime stems from economic disinvestment, which itself comes from pro-suburban government policies stemming back to the 50s (and in some cases the 20s and 30s).

In other words, despite having the deck stacked against them, and despite all the strife within them caused by outside meddling, American cities still manage to be the centers of economic activity and productivity of our nation. Honestly that makes them more impressive.
Interesting how you just pivoted from saying that cities are cooperative and fair to saying that, OK, people kill each other in cities, but look at how productive they are!


LOL
 
Old 11-28-2016, 08:15 AM
 
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Interesting how you just pivoted from saying that cities are cooperative and fair to saying that, OK, people kill each other in cities, but look at how productive they are!


LOL
You can have a cohesive and productive society in spite of a relative handful of rogues. Not all human social interactions are positive.
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