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As long as the media centers remain in places like manhattan and Hollywood , real change is not possible. How about create capitals of government,finance and media that people are proud of. Most americans hate NYC and DC and LA.
Starting from scratch you could build a state of the art mass transit system,new infrastructure, better designed cities. DC and its suburbs and LA are parking lots with gridlock and traffic and very poorly designed, getting off laguardia or driving into nyc is depressing noting how old and outdated everything is, the bridges and subway looks terrible .
Places like Dubai,Singapore,Munich,so much of Asia etc are newer and much better infrastructure
The cities you despise are growing while the predominantly Republican rural areas are losing population with every year, and there isn’t a thing you can do about it.
Let's give states the option to join a more neutral country. My city is two hours from Canada. We absolutely cannot stand Trump and the country is starting to look like the fall of Rome. Republicans love to talk about "state's rights". Give states the option for departure. Then we won't care where Republicans put their capitol, which would probably be in Mississippi.
Why do people move to these places in droves if "most Americans" hate them? Why is the real estate market in these places booming and expensive and desirable if "most Americans" hate them?
I don't see America moving to rural America in droves. Maybe "most Americans" hate those places.
Really odd isn't it? You do not speak for "most Americans."
Its not Americans moving into NYC its haitians, and poor asians and muslims and puerto ricans fleeing a paradise ruined by leftists.
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lol, NYC gets 60 million tourists a year. how many tourists does Kansas City get because of their vibrant culture?
Terrible urban planning is an axiom of the entire US, not just LA, DC, or NYC. Texas is an absolute disaster. The entire US was built on the idea that we'd be driving everywhere unlike how Dubai, Singapore, Munich and many parts of Asia were built. NYC also has the most subway stops in the entire world out of any city - it's really easy to take and get around almost anywhere in NYC.
Kansas city would be "vibrant" as you put it if it was the center of finance and media . M and m world , bubba gumps and superheros you see around time square, all the chain stores overpriced Broadway tickets, crappy starbucks, could be anywhere, tourists are not hard to please
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The cities you despise are growing while the predominantly Republican rural areas are losing population with every year, and there isn’t a thing you can do about it.
? People and corporations are moving to red states in large numbers and have been for awhile, I wouldnt be surprised if Amazon decides to put its second headquarters in texas. Its where bezos roots are and he owns land, everyone else is moving there, why not the capitol?
it make alot more sense than the decaying northeast corridor
Its not Americans moving into NYC its haitians, and poor asians and muslims and puerto ricans fleeing a paradise ruined by leftists.
Kansas city would be "vibrant" as you put it if it was the center of finance and media . M and m world , bubba gumps and superheros you see around time square, all the chain stores overpriced Broadway tickets, crappy starbucks, could be anywhere, tourists are not hard to please
? People and corporations are moving to red states in large numbers and have been for awhile, I wouldnt be surprised if Amazon decides to put its second headquarters in texas. Its where bezos roots are and he owns land, everyone else is moving there, why not the capitol?
it make alot more sense than the decaying northeast corridor
The fastest growing areas even in red states aren’t red areas; they’re increasingly blue cities.
Its not Americans moving into NYC its haitians, and poor asians and muslims and puerto ricans fleeing a paradise ruined by leftists.
Kansas city would be "vibrant" as you put it if it was the center of finance and media . M and m world , bubba gumps and superheros you see around time square, all the chain stores overpriced Broadway tickets, crappy starbucks, could be anywhere, tourists are not hard to please
? People and corporations are moving to red states in large numbers and have been for awhile, I wouldnt be surprised if Amazon decides to put its second headquarters in texas. Its where bezos roots are and he owns land, everyone else is moving there, why not the capital?
it make alot more sense than the decaying northeast corridor
Right. How many top research producing universities and institutions in the world does Kansas and the mid-west have?
Economics flows where innovation happens. I'm sorry that you can't stand the fact that many of our national gems are on the NE corridor.
Meanwhile Kansas was busy enacting the GOP dream book on tax reform that has led to the complete and utter destruction of that state's economy.
And lol at thinking NYC'S culture is defined by things like Starbucks and overpriced Broadway shows. My brother lives in NYC. We can go get super authentic Russian/Ukranian food, Khazak, Gujarati Indian, Isan Thai, Hungarian Stuffed Cheeseburgers, Alsacian French, Sri Lankan food, hardcore Chinese food, and pretty much any cuisine in the world at a drop of a hat. There are something like over 200 or 300 languages spoken in NYC. Where do you get all of those different cultures and cuisines in Kansas?
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Where ever the Capital is, it will turn bright blue. You can put it in the middle of TX and that area will become blue. There's no way around it since everyone working for the Fed Gov will live in the surrounding area. That's what happened to Northern Virginia.
D.C. by the way was chosen for it's location because it was half way between the northern states and southern states.
Kansas city would be "vibrant" as you put it if it was the center of finance and media . M and m world , bubba gumps and superheros you see around time square, all the chain stores overpriced Broadway tickets, crappy starbucks, could be anywhere, tourists are not hard to please...
The great appeal of coastal areas is, well, the ocean. It remains crucial for shipping and travel, and it's visually exhilirating. Kansas City and similar cities suffer from being landlocked. Throughout the world, landlocked cities - unless they're on major navigable rivers or lakes - are a major disadvantage. Moscow or Vienna, for example, are far from ocean-coasts... but they're on major rivers. Chicago and Cleveland are on a lake-coasts. Kansas City has the Missouri river, but at that point, is it navigable? Then there's the issue of climate. Landlocked cities tend to have severe climate, and to be in areas suited to agriculture - not tourist-activities.
The Midwest was a great place to farm, to extract minerals from the earth, and to process them into useful materials. We keep fretting over robots taking-over manufacturing jobs, but what if agriculture becomes so roboticized, that humans pretty much never have to touch a crop or farm-animal anymore? Then the Midwest becomes a giant factory run by robots... and even less appealing as a place to live.
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Right. How many top research producing universities and institutions in the world does Kansas and the mid-west have?
The Midwest has some first-rate universities and research centers, but they are overwhelmingly in “lefty” towns (Ann Arbor, Urbana-Champaign, and of course, Chicago). College-towns are notorious for attracting the ire of “conservatives”, as being “elitist” and purportedly out-of-touch. The colleges and research-centers may be holdovers from an earlier time, when the Midwest was prosperous, and education was essential for furthering that prosperity.
Indeed, many of us ex-coastal people are struggling with degraded quality of life, precisely because we were attracted to graduate schools and technical jobs in these Midwestern (or even Southern) centers - or at least, that was the case decades ago, when affluence in America - and its associated technical prowess - was more evenly spread. The trouble is, that just outside of these centers, one is surrounded by ceaseless swaths of corn and beans.
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There are something like over 200 or 300 languages spoken in NYC. Where do you get all of those different cultures and cuisines in Kansas?
This unfortunately is precisely what so grates and exasperates the critics of cosmopolitan culture. To them, this exoticism is either a despicable immigrant invasion, or rapacious "globalism". They would prefer strip-malls with Applebee's and Steak-and-shake.
So every time a president doesn't get a majority vote in whatever city the US capital is located in, we should move the capital?
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