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Old 11-21-2016, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The big difference is that the economy was still fairly strong in the 1960s and we had a strong middle class. Now we are back to Gilded Age levels of inequality.

So while we don't have the Vietnam War as a source of tension and anger now, now we have the terrible economy (for all but those at the very top).
It was the cost of that that very war which changed our economy forever. It set the course for what we have today.

As for the unrest etc, today is nothing compared to 1960s. Vietnam, war in Israel, mid-east terrorism, European terrorism, Soviet takeover of Czechoslovakia, cold war, Cuba missile crises, JFK assassination, Robert Kennedy assassination, MLK assassination, race riots (real ones), people being gunned down at Kent State.
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Old 11-21-2016, 07:34 PM
 
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Do you really want to go back to the 1980s? It wasn't all big hair, hair metal, and new wave. If you were poor or a minority back then, you were likely heavily affected by the crack epidemic. If you were gay, not only were you not accepted in society but you were seeing a lot of your friends die of AIDS even if you had not contracted the virus yourself. The '80s were not good for a lot of people.
The 80's were good compared today. Still mostly had free speech. A lot of beautiful people everywhere still having a ball. I'm remember there was still some brotherhood left. Way better than the third world feeling cess pools in many towns and cities we have today.
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Old 11-21-2016, 07:36 PM
 
Location: In a state of mind
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Are you saying all of these were good things? Answer carefully.
LOL - well ok, there WERE a lot of drunk drivers.
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Old 11-21-2016, 07:36 PM
 
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Eh. End of the 1960s was a interesting time but things really started going downhill in the early 1970s, when neoliberalism started taking over.

Time to bring back Keynesian economics. Neoliberalism should be put down.
That sounds about right. Middle class hit peak in 1972.
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Old 11-21-2016, 07:37 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere
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The 80's were good compared today. Still mostly had free speech. A lot of beautiful people everywhere still having a ball. I'm remember there was still some brotherhood left. Way better than the third world feeling cess pools in many towns and cities we have today.
The inner cities became third-world cesspools during the 1980s because of white flight, violence, and drugs. Things look much better now than they did 15 years ago in that department.

That's like saying the '50s were all malt shops, soda fountains, picket fences, and trophy wives. If you were lucky enough to be white and middle class back then, it may have had some resemblance to that, but there was an underworld of inequality that was swept under the rug. All that came to a head which gave us the Sixties.
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Old 11-21-2016, 07:39 PM
 
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In the early 60's inside Detroit, you could go to sleep leaving the front door open, the car unlocked, parked on the street, and drive home from the beer garden without a care (unless you were weaving all over the place, in which case a cop pulled you over - not some tattle tale). You generally answered the phone when it rang. 1/15 as many TV stations all with better stuff, and 100% free. At age 13 you could take 3 public busses downtown (15 cents + 5 cents for a transfer) to a magnet public high school (located in a red light district no less), with nary a care (except for freezing cold winter weather).

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Old 11-21-2016, 07:41 PM
 
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Terrible pollution from industry. Rivers and lakes were extremely polluted. Air pollution was terrible. Smog was awful in some cities. Swimming in some lakes/rivers was a health hazard and eating fish from same was also a health hazard.

Pollution was so bad that the Clean Water Act(1972)t and Clean Air Act (1970) were enacted.

Litter was a problem - people throwing trash on the streets-cans, bottles, wrappers, bags. There were slogans to "Pick up Litter" and "Don't be a Litterbug". It took many years for people to slow down on tossing litter.

Siding with Russia, even in a casual conversation, was very bad.

The First Man on the Moon was 1969.

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Old 11-21-2016, 07:41 PM
 
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The inner cities became third-world cesspools during the 1980s because of white flight, violence, and drugs. Things look much better now than they did 15 years ago in that department.
That's their problem if they can't stand on their own with out imposing and leaning on whites. Obama turned my neighborhood into the inner city like. I can show you plenty of bad neighborhoods today. Spreading, importing and imposing them onto others isn't progress.
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Old 11-21-2016, 07:47 PM
 
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Can old timers talk about early to mid 60's and not the late 60's? It's my understanding it all started to fall apart after the mid-60's due to government policies. I have plenty of old time relatives, so I have a good idea. I can remember the remnants of the original America.
Yes, the late sixties and seventies are when America started unraveling. By then we realized fighting commies wasn't a good thing, but the govt didn't get the memo. Police started becoming an occupying force that escalated until today we have the beginnings of an insurgency with cops being ambushed. Inner city people especially are fed up.

But drugs has really been our downfall. From pot in the 60's when it was all live and peace to now it created a whole underclass of non criminal criminals at odds with police, and criminal cartels that seem unstoppable.

Meanwhile our laws have been diluted to where we almost can't defend ourselves in some places without the VICTIM becoming the bad guy and going to jail.

Somewhere since about 1964-5 America got derailed and has continued further off track each year.

The bottom line - there is just too darn many people. Too many non-assemilating ethnic groups and hyphenated Americans.
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Old 11-21-2016, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
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That's their problem if they can't stand on their own with out imposing and leaning on whites. Obama turned my neighborhood into the inner city like. I can show you plenty of bad neighborhoods today. Spreading, importing and imposing them onto others isn't progress.
Who are "they?"
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