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Old 11-22-2016, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Central Illinois -
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Just shameful. Have the police learned nothing from hosing protesters going back to the 60's? This land was taken from the Native America at the barrel of a gun and now they can't even protect their reservation water and burial grounds.
It's sad indeed, but they are making their voices heard, and the world is watching. The paramilitary forces arrayed against them have come from Indiana, Ohio, Minnesota and South Dakota, why in the world are they importing these paramilitary forces?

Training for interstate conflict when it arises, and they are likely using this protest as a blueprint on how to deal with a restless population when more of us have had enough of being trampled on by corporations.
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Old 11-22-2016, 09:55 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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http://static2.businessinsider.com/i...00/rtssksf.jpg

Police spray North Dakota Access Pipeline protesters with water cannon - Business InsiderAfter months of protest against the proposed North Dakota Access Pipeline, the clash between police and activists heated up Sunday night as temperatures cooled to dangerous levels.
Protesters, many of whom are from the Standing Rock Indian Reservation, have been demonstrating against the oil pipeline that would pass through North Dakota's Lake Oahe, a sacred burial site and major source of drinking water for the Standing Rock Sioux.

Really??
Let the protesters see the value of being "warmed."
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Old 11-22-2016, 10:46 PM
 
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It's sad indeed, but they are making their voices heard, and the world is watching. The paramilitary forces arrayed against them have come from Indiana, Ohio, Minnesota and South Dakota, why in the world are they importing these paramilitary forces?

Training for interstate conflict when it arises, and they are likely using this protest as a blueprint on how to deal with a restless population when more of us have had enough of being trampled on by corporations.
Ha.

I'll have to tell the local officers that I know that have gone to help that apparently they're paramilitary forces.

You know what I'm tired of? Towns in my state being evacuated and people being killed because this oil is transported by more deadly ways than pipeline.

But go ahead and type out your response on your phone, tables or computer that uses petroleum products that my state has sacrificed lives for to provide for you. It's abundantly clear that our lives truly do not matter to people like you.
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Old 11-22-2016, 10:46 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
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ive never done that to anyone
nor have I ever owned a slave
nor did I join the jews in killing Christ
nor did I join the Nazis in killing jews
nor did I help stalin kill Russians
nor did I help...you get the picture
I'm afraid I don't understand your argument. I never said you did any of those things. What I did say was that immigrants today are in no way doing worse to us than what was done to the Native Americans.
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Old 11-22-2016, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
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I was born here...
Ive never immigrated anywhere


oh but my ancestors immigrated here so hence I am an immigrant??
maybe if you trace my ancestory back far enough, you might find cave men or Neanderthals or some sub human species...perhaps bacteria that was on this continent...hence you don't know for sure I am an immigrant...how far back do you liberal "were all immigrants" touters want to take it


lets go back far enough, when all the land on the earth was one super continent, before tutonic shifts broke it up into the continents we have today...hence NONE of us are immigrants...sigh
What is a tutonic shift?
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Old 11-22-2016, 10:59 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
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Oddly enough, the location of this "sacred ground" was unknown and only declared to be "sacred" one day before it was bulldozed.

Destruction of Sacred Burial Grounds Prompts Federal Judge to Protect Some Tribal Sites from Dakota Access Pipeline | DeSmogBlog

I use the word "sacred" in quotations not because it is an Indian site, but because I don't believe very many things are sacred, especially a patch of land that only recently was discovered to be "sacred".
Put an ancient artifact on it and I am impressed; wave your hand around and I am not.

It's the 21st century. Cemeteries (if they exist) get bulldozed all the time.
I guess that means it's okay for someone to dig up the one where your family is buried, right?
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Old 11-22-2016, 11:05 PM
 
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I guess that means it's okay for someone to dig up the one where your family is buried, right?
There was nothing there. Archaeologists have been following the pipeline construction and no burial grounds have been uncovered.

What you're saying is that you're upset over something that doesn't actually exist.
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Old 11-23-2016, 12:39 AM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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Dumbest post of the thread. The protesters are trespassing on private property. They have damaged and destroyed privately owned equipment. They have blocked honest workers from getting to their jobs. They have blocked public highways. They have set up camps on private property.

The PROTESTERS are the only ones that have initiated the use force here. IF they go back to their reservation, or private property that one of them own, and have a protest, that would be just fine. No one would complain at all, and they could protest peacefully, as long as they wanted. What is going on isn't a protest, it's a violent act-aka domestic terrorism.

I think Indian Casinos are harmful. They hurt those with gambling addictions. Encourage alcoholism. They allow smoking which is not allowed in non-tribal businesses. Because I think they are bayd, should I trespass on indian property and block access to them? Burn the casinos? Attack the workers? If not-why? That is exactly what is being done here.
Since when is a public right of way private property? Since when does the Corps of Engineers have the right to sell treaty lands to oil companies? It was DAPL that set fire to the vehicles on the bridge to block access, not the natives. The workers may be honest, but their bosses are crooks, as corrupt as they come. If the workers don't like it, they need to find an honest employer.
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Old 11-23-2016, 12:45 AM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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Read the actual facts from on the ground.

13yo Girl Shot in the Face, Tribal Elder in Critical Condition as Police Assault DAPL Protesters

https://www.facebook.com/11313479102...type=3&theater
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Old 11-23-2016, 12:48 AM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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https://www.facebook.com/latinarebel...type=3&theater
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