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Old 11-29-2016, 04:37 AM
 
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All this is BS. The reservation already has a rail line running through it transporting oil owned by non other than Buffet. The tribe was paid over $25 million for a 20 yr lease. Should the pipeline go through - the use of the rail line would suffer. There have been many rail spills - and yet they weren't concerned about water safety due to those. It's all about the money.

The protesters stole machinery, fence posts ect from a neighboring farmer repeatedly - he had no involvement in this conflict and eventually quit and put the farm up for sale after fencing again disappeared around the time a barricade of fencing was put up to put barriers on the roads.

Throughout the conflict the tribe has refused to come to the table numerous times and when a meeting has been agreed upon - they fail to show. They've had one argument after another on why the pipeline should not be built and the latest is the water issue getting the environmentalists involved.
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Old 11-29-2016, 04:45 AM
 
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Government now saying they will not be forcibly removing anyone.
Thats unfortunate. Prepare for higher gas and energy costs then eh? If the pipeline gets stopped permenently or even gets a reroute its only going to reward crybaby bad behavior. Don't like something? Just stay put and keep protesting and eventually you'll be rewarded.

I'd love to see the police deliver a strong message there and clear out these bums with whatever means needed. These hippy kids have wasted enough tax payer money already.
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Old 11-29-2016, 05:09 AM
 
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All this is BS. The reservation already has a rail line running through it transporting oil owned by non other than Buffet. The tribe was paid over $25 million for a 20 yr lease. Should the pipeline go through - the use of the rail line would suffer. There have been many rail spills - and yet they weren't concerned about water safety due to those. It's all about the money.
How many and when?
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Old 11-30-2016, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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Thats unfortunate. Prepare for higher gas and energy costs then eh? If the pipeline gets stopped permenently or even gets a reroute its only going to reward crybaby bad behavior. Don't like something? Just stay put and keep protesting and eventually you'll be rewarded.

I'd love to see the police deliver a strong message there and clear out these bums with whatever means needed. These hippy kids have wasted enough tax payer money already.
The children throwing their temper tantrum will go away, either by force or when they get bored (with the weather in the area that might come quickly) and the pipeline will be finished. The company should sue the tribe or any other groups identified trespassing and blocking their workers from doing their jobs. Even the deep pockets of environmental groups will take a beating for the cost of holding up a $3.5 billion pipeline. Set them back a billion or so with any luck.
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Old 11-30-2016, 08:16 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Which pipeline are they protesting?
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Old 11-30-2016, 08:17 AM
 
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When the courts in Iowa rule for the people like they did in WV it all becomes moot.
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Old 11-30-2016, 09:24 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Not if there's a likely element of fraud involved. For all we know the Native Americans probably dug pits when someone died, put the body into the pit after an appropriate ritual, and covered the pit. That means the entire continent, literally, could be an "ancient Native American burial site." I just finished reading a Carl Hiaasen novel, Razor Girl, which in part satirized the use of bogus ancient Native American burial sites to obstruct the building of a house on a neighbor's piece of land. There is massive opportunity here for fraudulent claims.
There's bodies placed in graves all over the place. Many Graves that have been found on digs have turned out to have no relation to any Indian tribe. Yet relation is claimed anyway. There's a stretch of desert here that has bodies buried all over it. There's thousands and thousands of Graves stretching coast to coast. Not all of them are Indians. Far from it.

There's actually more non Indians buried out there. The move West cost a lot of lives. But when a grave is found, it's always assumed to be some Indian "sacred site". Sheesh, there's no telling how many bodies are buried out there and who they might have been. Going back through time immemorial. The ...spirits...walking this land don't belong exclusively to anyone.
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Old 11-30-2016, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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do you expect anyone to take a link off of the huffington post seriously? especially one that cites the "majority white community" in the legend, and actually refers to a pipeline as the "black snake?" give me a break.
Are you trying to claim the map is inaccurate? "If the facts are not on your side, call the other guy a liar and start a fight."
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Old 11-30-2016, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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The riffraff will be cleared away and the pipeline will be built.
So you think a couple thousand veterans are "riffraff?"

Literally Too Many Veterans Have Signed Up to Join DAPL Protests - Counter Current News
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Old 11-30-2016, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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All this is BS. The reservation already has a rail line running through it transporting oil owned by non other than Buffet. The tribe was paid over $25 million for a 20 yr lease. Should the pipeline go through - the use of the rail line would suffer. There have been many rail spills - and yet they weren't concerned about water safety due to those. It's all about the money.

The protesters stole machinery, fence posts ect from a neighboring farmer repeatedly - he had no involvement in this conflict and eventually quit and put the farm up for sale after fencing again disappeared around the time a barricade of fencing was put up to put barriers on the roads.

Throughout the conflict the tribe has refused to come to the table numerous times and when a meeting has been agreed upon - they fail to show. They've had one argument after another on why the pipeline should not be built and the latest is the water issue getting the environmentalists involved.
What is the farmer's name? Link to a police report? Or is this just more DAPL corporate misinformation trying to demonize the protesters?
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