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Old 11-22-2016, 07:03 AM
 
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Socialist based countries are collapsing because socialism doesn't work. Govt's are scrambling for tax dollars and rates are negative. They are starting to ban cash. Money is flowing to any asset class that is safe(r) than no return at all. Welcome to the dark side of low interest rates and buckle up for inflation on everything you need to survive. This is all on the globalists and their central bank minions. We have been living in a make-believe world where we are told problems never have to get resolved. Trump (and every reader here) is inheriting the mother of all financial ponzi schemes.

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Old 11-22-2016, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Because he calmed fears by saying that he wasn't going to be as isolationist and anti-trade as he indicated during the election cycle.
So, basically everything he said during the campaign was lies, and the markets breathed a sigh of relief when they realized that? Is that it?

Because if he had actually done what he said he was going to do, we'd be in big trouble.

So, he is basically another Bush, or Obama, no different than Hillary. How refreshing

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Old 11-22-2016, 07:08 AM
 
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It has "shot up" less than 1%, and it's because his best friends, the bankers, won the lottery with his win. In time the market will take a serious hit when Trump recession kicks in. Tax cuts with massive spending increase and 45% tax in imports and dis-honoring of trade deals pretty much guarantees a trade-war, inflation, massive debt and a recession.

November 8 November 21 % Change
Dow Jones Industrials 18332.74 18956.69 +3.4%
S & P 500 2139.56 2198.18 +3.6%
NASDAQ 5368.49 5368.86 +3.3%


Let's not the facts get in the way of a good story!
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Old 11-22-2016, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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I worry about market manipulation. Trump isn't in office now. The higher the market goes before he takes office; the greater a chance that those levels might not be maintained for the years of his Presidency. Some are now predicting a fall; of course we will not know until it happens - we have seen many bad predictions in the past. Trump still has many enemies that would do anything to hurt or disrupt his quest to make America great.
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Old 11-22-2016, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I worry about market manipulation. Trump isn't in office now. The higher the market goes before he takes office; the greater a chance that those levels might not be maintained for the years of his Presidency. Some are now predicting a fall; of course we will not know until it happens - we have seen many bad predictions in the past. Trump still has many enemies that would do anything to hurt or disrupt his quest to make America great.
It depends on whether or not he will keep his campaign promises. If he does, we will crash hard, if he backs down, then its anyone guess, because the alternatives are unknown.
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Old 11-22-2016, 08:20 AM
 
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So, basically everything he said during the campaign was lies, and the markets breathed a sigh of relief when they realized that? Is that it?

Because if he had actually done what he said he was going to do, we'd be in big trouble.

So, he is basically another Bush, or Obama, no different than Hillary. How refreshing
I agree.

I honestly don't understand why anyone thought he could do what he said he was going to do. Not many would support him. Just like the GOP base felt that Obama's "Hope and Change" mantra was ridiculous, so was Trump's "Make America Great Again" and his own "change."

As an investor though, I'm glad he's come to his senses. I also was worried about losing money due to his isolationism. I'm glad he decided to rejoin the status quo on this issue.
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Old 11-22-2016, 08:38 AM
 
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So then why did they say during the election cylce that the market would go down
Who?

Who is "They" ?
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Old 11-22-2016, 10:42 AM
 
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It has "shot up" less than 1%, and it's because his best friends, the bankers, won the lottery with his win. In time the market will take a serious hit when Trump recession kicks in. Tax cuts with massive spending increase and 45% tax in imports and dis-honoring of trade deals pretty much guarantees a trade-war, inflation, massive debt and a recession.
Yet they backed Hillary Clinton.
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Old 11-22-2016, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Western Asia
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I decided to put this in the politics section rather than Economics/Finance because I think it's more political that Economics. However, if the discussion is deep economic theories, then the Moderators may want to move it.


My theory is that all of the predictions that the market would crash if Trump were elected were based on influencing the vote rather than an analysis of the effect of his policies. I actually predicted he might win but was influenced by people like Buffett that made the predictions that the market would fall if Trump were elected. I wonder if he made a fortune off of leading me down the wrong path....I wouldn't doubt it.


Anyway, please state your theory and why they predicted Trump's election would crash the market and why has it shot to record highs?
I predicted this and now it turns out I was right, Buffett tricked me by saying the market would fall and then he turned around and invested in Trump and made another 11 Billion...smart guy.


Warren Buffett sees 11 billion dollar boom on Donald Trump win
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Old 11-22-2016, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Western Asia
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Who?

Who is "They" ?
You, every liberal, the market experts that I see on CNN, BBC, MSNBC, every news outlet that I saw, they all sang the chorus about the markets falling if Trump were elected.
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