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Old 11-22-2016, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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3 words. Low information voters
Or 4 words. Humor's lost on some.
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Old 11-22-2016, 11:28 AM
 
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Yeah, exactly.
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Old 11-22-2016, 11:33 AM
 
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I don't know. I hope he grabs her up and gets her in the cabinet. What a pick to show he can take one for the democrat team. She has some great ideas.
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Old 11-22-2016, 12:41 PM
 
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While I hate Donald Trump, and I voted for Clinton, Democrats it's time to get over this loss. Trump is President, and we do need to continue fighting the good fight, but let's also not get in over our heads. Let the Republicans/Conservatives duke it out themselves and deal with him, and also see what Trump brings to the table.

I am tired of seeing so many anti-Trump articles on my Facebook feed and on the internet. I get it, I really do, but it's not helping at all. Instead of focusing on bringing down Trump (didn't help us during the election), I think we should focus on two things:

1. Understanding where things went wrong. We shouldn't have lost Michigan or Wisconsin. But it is becoming clearer why we did. We got too complacent and arrogant, thought we had those easily in the bag, where Clinton paid little to no attention to those states, and Trump campaigned there. We need to learn from those mistakes and start planning for the next election on how we can do better.

2. Finding a really solid candidate for 2020. I really, really like Tulsi Gabbard, and I think she would do a great job and she has a great perspective on key policies. I am not saying she will run, but we need to start looking to see who we can start elevating and what names we should put in the ring. I for one will start to educate my family and friends on Tulsi, I think you should start doing the same for candidates that you think should run.

I feel putting our efforts in being more objective and proactive will prove to be more fruitful. Instead of starting so many anti-Trump threads, and constantly spewing hate we need to start focusing on how we can win in 2020. Stop being sour grapes.

Just my two cents.

Mostly agree as I did not vote for Trump and cherish the two-party system.

However, it would seem the losing side would rather rant and riot and spend another 4 or 8 years calling anyone who disagrees with them on anything a Racist.

I mean, that has worked out sooooooo well.
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Old 11-22-2016, 01:05 PM
 
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Reagan..Clinton..Obama..Trump. An actor turned politician, a politician who was a major BS artist and great communicator, a relatively inexperienced politician who was a great speaker and personality, and a celebrity with 0 political experience but huge name recognition.

4 of the last 6 Presidents were basically personality before policy.

Reagan had been a major player in the rightward turn of the Republican Party, governor of the country's largest state and president of a union (even if it was an actors union.) Clinton was a 5 term Arkansas Governor. Those two definitely had some level of experience and were in tune with changing political climates in the country.


Obama was basically a repudiation of Bush- who was partly a repudiation of Clinton. Truth be told all 4 of those were basically the change candidate first and foremost.
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Old 11-22-2016, 01:13 PM
Status: "Elect a clown? Expect a circus!" (set 7 days ago)
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Democrats/Liberals, get over it and let's focus on our next candidate

NO! NO! NO!

Let's NOT have another 4 years of pandering campaign BS.
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Old 11-22-2016, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Eastern Colorado
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Trump won.

He's a celebrity with high name recognition.

His "policies" meant little or nothing other than a few bold assertions about immigration and jobs.

If a normal dude had run on that platform, he would have been crushed in the primaries.

Obama, while much more intelligent and knowledgeable than Trump, was a "star" after the 2004 convention. He basically was elected because he was a very impressive person, it had little to do with policy.

Low information voters elected Trump, as well as Obama. Tulsi Gabbard is a star in the making. We are a celebrity obsessed culture and she has celebrity potential in addition to military service and political experience.

So, shes potentially qualified, and potentially attractive to low information voters.
I hope all liberals continue to think this, so that the Democrats can continue their slow death and maybe the libertarians or another party can rise up and we can have 2 parties with real differences.
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Old 11-22-2016, 01:55 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di-_n05tppo
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Old 11-22-2016, 02:25 PM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere
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Originally Posted by Nukua View Post
While I hate Donald Trump, and I voted for Clinton, Democrats it's time to get over this loss. Trump is President, and we do need to continue fighting the good fight, but let's also not get in over our heads. Let the Republicans/Conservatives duke it out themselves and deal with him, and also see what Trump brings to the table.

I am tired of seeing so many anti-Trump articles on my Facebook feed and on the internet. I get it, I really do, but it's not helping at all. Instead of focusing on bringing down Trump (didn't help us during the election), I think we should focus on two things:

1. Understanding where things went wrong. We shouldn't have lost Michigan or Wisconsin. But it is becoming clearer why we did. We got too complacent and arrogant, thought we had those easily in the bag, where Clinton paid little to no attention to those states, and Trump campaigned there. We need to learn from those mistakes and start planning for the next election on how we can do better.

2. Finding a really solid candidate for 2020. I really, really like Tulsi Gabbard, and I think she would do a great job and she has a great perspective on key policies. I am not saying she will run, but we need to start looking to see who we can start elevating and what names we should put in the ring. I for one will start to educate my family and friends on Tulsi, I think you should start doing the same for candidates that you think should run.

I feel putting our efforts in being more objective and proactive will prove to be more fruitful. Instead of starting so many anti-Trump threads, and constantly spewing hate we need to start focusing on how we can win in 2020. Stop being sour grapes.

Just my two cents.
I agree with this completely.

Clinton wouldn't have been a good President had she had won and would have likely only held one term. This is a chance for Democrats to get over Clinton and focus on somebody who can mop the floor with Trump in 2020 and actually move the country forward without all of the Clinton baggage.
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Old 11-22-2016, 02:31 PM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Yes, we need to focus on 2018 and 2020 and field strong progressive candidates who are not beholden to special interests, donors and big money like Trump and his cronies. Focus on the issues of higher minimum wage, healthcare for all, getting big money out of politics, paid family and medical leave for all workers, banning for-profit prisons and expanding social security. These are the issues we need the American people to focus on.

There are people in Congress that could be options for 2020 like Sheldon Whitehouse, Tulsi Gabbard, Al Franken, Sherrod Brown and Elizabeth Warren. Or perhaps Martin O'Malley from Maryland.
Yeah that's it. Groom the same batch of Leftist losers we see on Bill Maher and Chris Matthews. LOL
Your side has decades to ponder winning another election!
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