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Old 11-29-2016, 05:38 AM
 
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Yes, totally agree that they are obsessed with this.


What is shocking is most liberals don't know that their party is driven by these things. In their minds the Demo party is all about care and healthcare for them and their middleclass gay friends.
When I tell one of them in person that the demo party wants to let in millions of the most savage economic migrants to destroy the western culture as they hate the "bourgeois" west, they think I'm stupid. There seems to be 2 groups of liberals, the ones who do the action and create the propaganda, and the mislead voter base. Just the first group should be taken out by Trump, and our way of life could be saved.
Left elite's hatred for the west should be exposed and emotionally (not just logically) propagandized. The problem is a lot of people just don't want to believe that their heroes hate them.
This has been my experience also.
When you give liberals facts on the negative economics of illegal immigration, or the facts
on percentages of muslims supporting terror, or that blacks are actually capable of getting voter ID, they dismiss it all as something from "Faux News."

So much of the media and academia is skewed far left, that anything that contradicts their liberal
propaganda couldn't be true in their minds. Their critical thinking skills have not been well-developed.
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Old 11-29-2016, 07:42 AM
 
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This has been my experience also.
When you give liberals facts on the negative economics of illegal immigration, or the facts
on percentages of muslims supporting terror, or that blacks are actually capable of getting voter ID, they dismiss it all as something from "Faux News."

So much of the media and academia is skewed far left, that anything that contradicts their liberal
propaganda couldn't be true in their minds. Their critical thinking skills have not been well-developed.
That's slightly different from what bueno is saying. He is saying that he'll say to a liberal that, for example, Democrats are proponents of illegal immigration and they say that isn't true. You're saying that you'll say to a liberal that illegal immigration harms the country and they say that isn't true. In his case, they're denying liberals even being for illegals. In your case, they admit they are for illegals but claim it's because it's beneficial. I've run into both types of liberals.
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Old 11-29-2016, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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I'd like to comment on a few recent posts but work is busy today... so later.

In the meantime I wanted to do a drive-by and post this excellent 170-minute interview of Jordan Peterson (the U of Toronto prof) by Joe Rogan from yesterday:

Joe Rogan Experience - Jordan Peterson

Very relevant to the thread topic. I think everyone could learn something from it, I learned tons.
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Old 11-29-2016, 08:40 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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This is the great mystery of our time. It's understandable that some groups have pushed this worldview, but how did it go mainstream and become so dominant? How did so many, mainly white, people by into an ideology that demonized them? At least now it seems like many are stepping back and looking at the question.
The liberal mainstream media agenda has a lot to do with it. They basically claimed as fact that Trump is sexist, racist, hates immigrants etc when none of this is true if you really listen to his statements. I'm the son of LEGAL Asian immigrants and I and my parents all despise illegal aliens who refuse to do it the right way like they did. Yet go on CNN and it basically reports as fact that Trump "Attacked women" and "attacked immigrants" when he only attacked ILLEGAL immigrants and Islamic terrorism.

Maybe the left embraces Islamic fundamentalism and refugees simply because those are anti-American forces, like they supported the Vietcong during the Vietnam War and also supported Fidel Castro and Che Guevara. In fact many on the liberal left seem to love Fidel's regime and hate the Cuban Americans in Miami who escaped from communism and socialism and are the one Hispanic immigrant group who comes legally and contributes positively to America.
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Old 11-29-2016, 08:42 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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There are no viable far-left movements in the US.

Ms. Clinton was center-right by global metrics of "left vs. right."
Global metrics like Kim Jong Un, Raul Castro, Nicolas Maduro, and Xi Jiping?
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