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I would like to ask the Californians who moved to Texas because their jobs moved to Texas, do you have more discretionary money now to spend in Texas compared to California? In other words, strictly from a financial perspective, are you doing better personally? If the OP thinks I should put this question in its own thread, I will.
I was with ya until number three. Hollywood distributes our values? Nix this ridiculous shpeel about Hollywood and you have a point. It reads like someone who is hopelessly pop culture centered. You sound like a hipster female blogger on Hello Giggles.
You do know that politics and Hollywood have been intertwined for quite awhile, don't you? A lot of pop culture can be arguably seen as propaganda of you look at it from a more cynical perspective. The military has used Hollywood as a tool for recruitment purposes in the past. Look past the more superficial aspects of Hollywood and dig deeper.
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You do know that politics and Hollywood have been intertwined for quite awhile. A lot of pop culture can be arguably seen as propaganda of you look at it from a more cynical perspective. The military has used Hollywood as a tool for recruitment purposes in the past. Look past the more superficial aspects of Hollywood and dig deeper.
Agreed but I doubt that's what 18Montclair meant. He meant it more as the highly moral and relevant influence of the Kardashians or whatnot.
I don't think anyone said that Texas is beating CA. But for Texas being second after CA in terms of GDP and growing so much in the last decade or so, it's pretty impressive. You don't have to knock other states down to play up CA. Why can't it be that both states are economic powehouses?
Exactly.
Texas produces more energy than California.
Washington makes more airplanes than California.
Iowa grows more corn than California.
West Virginia produces more coal than California.
Most importantly it's easier to be middle class in all these places. Being wealthy is easy everywhere.
What's the point of all this? The whole benefit of being in the US is the diverse economics which provides us with everything from raw materials and food, to finished goods and energy, to software, medical advances, and research and development. The recession hit California worse than any other state. In Texas it was barely noticed. For the country's sake it helps to have Texas as a stable economic counter weight to California's erratic economy during bad times.
What's odd is that Californians seem to feel the need to benchmark themselves against Texas.
For anyone who's ever lived in Texas, you quickly find out Texans gives no f**ks about what's going on California.
Who are these folks that are NIMBYs? Liberals? Environmentalists?
To give you an example, we have a initiative making it's way on the ballot this coming March in LA that will put a halt on all new construction in LA that required an zoning/planning exemption from the city. That will throw a monkey wrench into the the tremendous growth LA experienced in the last five years and brought it out of the recession it was in. The construction boom was vital to a recovering LA.
This initiative was started by a rich industry guy who lives in Hollywood and was upset that the new development was blocking his view of the Hollywood sign. I chit you not. Most of these NIMBYs get involved or hound their local planning commissions to stall or halt development projects which costs the developers money which they then pass along to future tenants. The only way it's lucrative to build in LA is if you create expensive housing and charge high rents to offset all the development headaches.
Environmental groups secure swathes of land they intend to preserve but honestly most detractors of the NIMBYs aren't buying it anymore. They know they're just looking to preserve their QOL, their tastes and preferences and their property values which have gone through the roof since they've aided in artificially restricting supply through these third party agencies.
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I would like to ask the Californians who moved to Texas because their jobs moved to Texas, do you have more discretionary money now to spend in Texas compared to California? In other words, strictly from a financial perspective, are you doing better personally? If the OP thinks I should put this question in its own thread, I will.
I turned down a job in California after checking housing costs and taxes. I like living in a house.
What's odd is that Californians seem to feel the need to benchmark themselves against Texas.
For anyone who's ever lived in Texas, you quickly find out Texans gives no f**ks about what's going on California.
I think it's because they never expected a "cowpoke" state like Texas to develop so quickly and rise up to be 2nd to CA and have I believe now the 12th or the 14th largest economy in the world. It's doing very well and the recession never hurt Texas. Even the drop in oil prices didn't send it to anywhere near the recession CA experienced during the 08 downturn.
To be fair though, a lot of the financial rags about five years ago kept playing the Texas Miracle up as though it was the best thing since sliced bread. California was always the butt of the joke while Texas was played up. They kind of fostered this rivalry between the two states and their economies. It didn't help that Gov Rick Perry was asking CA businesses to move to Texas either.
So it probably leaves a bitter taste in CAs mouth that Texas has grown so much as is second to CA. But the whole country has done a 180. It's nice to live in a lot of places now not just CA. If I wasn't in CA I'd live in Oregon, North Carolina, Texas or Nashville. I mean the growth in a lot of cities outside of CA has just been amazing. It's no longer CA or NY or bust.
What the....? Wow, we agree! Excellent. Yes, it's hard as heck to get people in the CA forum to agree with this. Many support the NIMBYism.
Well Ive seen too many awesome families leave because they make $100,000 but still cant afford a house in a decent area. That's quite frankly immoral and we are ultimately going to suffer economically.
What we need is perhaps 2 million units of affordable housing of all kinds( apts, townhouses, single family homes etc) but it's not happening.
But I digress.
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