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Old 11-23-2016, 11:25 AM
 
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They are also a key distribution point for shipping over seas as well.

Most people think CA is some power house due to policy, but it really is as you say, just many fortunate things help boost it and when you account for such, you find CA isn't doing that well. The fact that having such powerful advantages and yet the state still has faced bankruptcy shows you how mismanaged it really is. You have to be a pretty poor manager to cause the economic power of that state to falter. If anything, CA should be a glowing beacon of how NOT to run a state.


It is sad really, I grew up there and it is really a beautiful place to live anywhere in the state (especially far north in the mountains and coast), but its policies have destroyed its major cities and that poor policy has bled out into the smaller towns as well leaving them devastated by taxes, regulations, overpriced housing and numerous draconian polices that disregard the liberty of the individual.


By the way, if you want to avoid CA politics when you come to Texas, do your homework on some of the cities, some are min-CA type hell holes and we have had a ton of NY and CA people move in who are progressives escaping their previous states only to look at repeating their same failed policies here.
Under Arnold. Jerry Brown has brought the state back and we are no longer facing bankruptcy or anything else. Brown is a spendthrift. Hopefully, the next governor will follow on the same path because it really does make a difference.

 
Old 11-23-2016, 11:32 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Hahaha trashy is where the trailers are hun, and that AINT California.
'trailers are hun'?
where on earth are the trailers 'hun'? mongolia?
 
Old 11-23-2016, 11:33 AM
 
Location: USA
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Both Texas and California seem like Third World countries to me.
 
Old 11-23-2016, 11:37 AM
 
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Another liberal who only sees what he wants to see and thinks everything outside your ivory tower window represents the rest of the state.





As usual reality doesn't mater the liberal view.
Is that second picture really California? The trash cans are all wrong. They should be bright blue.
 
Old 11-23-2016, 11:50 AM
 
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Energy industry and their government over usage penalty plan.

EPA's cancerous actions and state regulations that have handicapped industries much of the farming/ranch industry).

California Water Association and their attacks on the farmers and land owners near water ways.

Numerous taxes, regulations, fees (progressive car registration fees based on vehicle make, model and cost), etc... seriously pages of them.

Welfare policies and hand outs to illegals.

Allowing illegals to gain drivers licenses, hold offices in cities.

Excessive business regulations that have driven many businesses out of the state (workman's comp, minimum wage increases, license, fees, regulatory compliance, etc...)


Though you are looking for me to give the exact regulation or you will wholesale dismiss if I don't cite you bill numbers and do all the paper work right?


Sorry kid, I was there for over 30 years before I left that hell hole. I have nothing to prove to you, nor do I need to justify anything past my basic mentions of the areas and focus. You want to word smith and rules lawyer, go find some other fool who will oblige. So why don't you get to dismissing me and run along!
So this is just general GOP talking points with no specifics of where any of this has DEVASTATED California. You are a working stiff who believe workman's compensation and minimum wage increase has devastated CA (with no proof from credible and neutral sources of course). I say the GOP propaganda machine is doing a good job deceiving the people who should support pro-worker policies.
 
Old 11-23-2016, 11:54 AM
 
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This is the most idiotic thread I have ever seen, and that is saying a lot.

California has the best weather in the world, the best harbor in the world, some of the best tourism due to natural beauty, some of the best farmland in the world, and a huge head start with Hollywood and the tech industries from the days before socialists turned this into an unlivable heallhole for all of use who don't make $350,000 and year.

Texas is s desert, it is booming ONLY because of good policies. And unlike Cali, it is livable.

I live in Cali and as soon as it is feasible in my life, I am heading for Texas.

But hey, believe as you like.
Texas isn't all desert.
 
Old 11-23-2016, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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As I was saying,

US News & World Report
World University Ranking 2016


Texas: 2 of the Top 100 universities in the world
Rank #30 University of Texas--Austin
Rank #61 Rice

California: 11 of the Top 100 universities in the world
Rank #3 Stanford
Rank #4 UC Berkeley
Rank #5 Cal Tech
Rank #10 UCLA
Rank #15 UC San Diego
Rank #16 UC San Francisco
Rank #24 UC Santa Barbara
Rank #27 UC Santa Cruz
Rank #42 UC Davis
Rank #53 USC
Rank #65 UC Irvine

US News Best Global Universities | US News Education

Texas will NEVER, EVER, EVER be on California's level if this^ doesnt change.

Sorry.
 
Old 11-23-2016, 12:22 PM
 
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As I was saying,

US News & World Report
World University Ranking 2016


Texas: 2 of the Top 100 universities in the world
Rank #30 University of Texas--Austin
Rank #61 Rice

California: 11 of the Top 100 universities in the world
Rank #3 Stanford
Rank #4 UC Berkeley
Rank #5 Cal Tech
Rank #10 UCLA
Rank #15 UC San Diego
Rank #16 UC San Francisco
Rank #24 UC Santa Barbara
Rank #27 UC Santa Cruz
Rank #42 UC Davis
Rank #53 USC
Rank #65 UC Irvine

US News Best Global Universities | US News Education

Texas will NEVER, EVER, EVER be on California's level if this^ doesnt change.

Sorry.
Yet your high school education tells a different story:

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-wit...-schools/5335/

California is ranked 40th for public high school education. Texas is ranked 21st.

Given all the massive spending CA claims to spend here, you're not getting much for your taxes.

Do you have any actual proof that California is successful at anything aside from catering to the wealthy?

Given the severe income disparities, low upward mobility, poor public education, lack of diversity among the wealthy, poor road conditions, and pathetic poverty levels, California even sucks at being liberal. You've got a long way to go before you can become Scandinavia. Right now it looks like you're closer to Colombia.

Sorry, but California has way too much dirty laundry to be bragging about anything just yet.
 
Old 11-23-2016, 12:29 PM
 
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Its nice place to drink wine, but who can afford to live, earn a wage amd own a home?

Your guns laws and 2nd Amendment issue are Illegle and Unconstitional. Ca fails to understand thier beef is with the Criminals and Gangs. Not everyday gun owners.

What over! I See more Califonia takes every day in Arizona.
Californians and New Yorkers ruin every place they infest.
 
Old 11-23-2016, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Yet your high school education tells a different story.
Nope, California and Texas' graduation rates are both in the 80-90% range.

The High School Graduation Rate Reaches A Record High

But when they leave high school, California thrashes Texas as far as providing a world class education to everyone.

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Originally Posted by New York Times
CALIFORNIA'S UPWARD-MOBILITY MACHINE

By DAVID LEONHARDT
SEPTEMBER 16, 2015

The University of California is struggling with budget woes that have deeply affected campus life. Yet the system’s nine colleges still lead the nation in providing top-flight college education to the masses.

At many other colleges, poor and truly middle-class students remain a distinct minority. Affluent students predominate at liberal-arts colleges like Oberlin and Bates, private universities like Cornell and Texas Christian and even many public universities, including Wisconsin, Penn State and Georgia Tech. The University of California, by contrast, enrolls a large number of high-performing students of all economic backgrounds.

That contrast is the most striking result of this year’s College Access Index, a New York Times measure of economic diversity at top colleges. Six of the top seven spots in this year’s index belong to University of California campuses, with Irvine at No. 1, and the flagship Berkeley campus at No. 7...
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/09/17....html?referer=

This^ is a major factor as to why California ranks so highly here:

Top 10 Metro Area
Odds of Reaching Top Fifth Income
From Bottom Fifth Income

1 San Jose, CA
2 San Francisco, CA

3 Washington, DC
4 Seattle, WA
5 Salt Lake City, UT
6 New York, NY
7 Boston, MA
8 San Diego, CA
9 Newark, NJ
10 Manchester, NH

http://inequality.stanford.edu/sites...c-mobility.pdf

So 3 of the 10 most upwardly mobile metro areas are in California and zero are in Texas.

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