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Old 11-23-2016, 05:27 PM
 
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I'm sure if the mines reopen or new mines are dug, folks would be lining up in droves to work there despite the health risks. Gotta feed the family ... there are inherent risks in a lot of occupations.
The mines are not going to reopen, and what mining remains is done mostly mechanically, by blowing off the tops of the oldest mountains in the world. There is very little deep coal mining being done in Appalachia, and the belief that it's coming back is founded in deliberate falsehoods fed to people with limited education and a lot of false hope.

Please find and read those two books. Also, look out the window on the next clear day that you fly over this area. What you will see is appalling. If you can't manage that, take a look at Google Earth.

And no, you can't put it back, and you can't restore it. It is gone, forever...the oldest mountains in the world, which once bore the richest and most diverse forests in the world. And what is left is endangered.

Appalachian Tragedy...right outside your flyover plane's window.
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Old 11-23-2016, 05:28 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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If I were you libs, I'd build myself an underground shelter as soon as possible.
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Old 11-23-2016, 05:29 PM
 
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I really don't like to bring race into things, but that's why a lot of people in red states vote the way they do. These people will be fine with having white "elites" put their boot on their neck as long as those same "elites" are stringing up black and brown people by theirs.

Those same poor folks have been voting for laws and bills that screw over minority groups. The irony is that they have been screwing over themselves by proxy.

He promises he'll make white lives better at the expense of everyone else's life and it totes won't negatively affect poor whites nope, not at all just all the other racial groups! And he does so without the dog whistles (tellin it like it is!).

Same ol argument, ad nauseam. Poor whites feel like "someone is out there representing my interests" whilst Republicans crush any legislation that allows for a living wage and fast track the off shoring of jobs to other countries...among other things.
Lets not assume that voting against their own interests is strictly a phenomenon among whites though. If black people had voted the same way the rest of the Democratic primary electorate voted, Sanders would have been the nominee, and not Wall Street Hillary.
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Old 11-23-2016, 05:31 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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Just what the folks of rural Kentucky wanted to hear ...

Clinton: 'We're Going to Put a Lot of Coal Miners and Coal Companies Out of Business' | The Weekly Standard
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Old 11-23-2016, 05:34 PM
 
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If I were you libs, I'd build myself an underground shelter as soon as possible.
You realize that this thread is not about liberals, it's about red, red, red Kentucky, where more than 440,000 poor rednecks--the majority Trump supporters--could be losing access to healthcare. Will you tell all of them to build an underground shelter, too?
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Old 11-23-2016, 05:36 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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You realize that this thread is not about liberals, it's about red, red, red Kentucky, where more than 440,000 poor rednecks--the majority Trump supporters--could be losing access to healthcare. Will you tell all of them to build an underground shelter, too?
No of course not ... but they are not the libs replying on this board and saying "you get what you pay for".
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Old 11-23-2016, 05:36 PM
 
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Providing healthcare in the USA is complicated, and trump is a simpleton. Most of the GOP doesn't care about anything but their own money.

Yes, it's hard to care about the electorate that mostly thinks "I don't want government to mess with my social security or healthcare", but other countries have figured it out.

I'm guessing Paul Ryan will write the GOP plan, and send those folks a voucher that won't pay diddly in an unregulated healthcare market.

Hey, we're gonna put them back in the coal mines to further destroy our planet. They be dyin' anyway....
Boy, you sure are an expert and know a lot about everything that's going to happen from what the electorate thinks to Paul Ryan's thoughts and what he's going to do, to knowing what's going to happen with the coal industry in the future.
Do you play powerball? Oh wait, didn't you say Clinton was going to win the election?
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Old 11-23-2016, 05:37 PM
 
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If I were you libs, I'd build myself an underground shelter as soon as possible.
If I were you, I would learn to watch your tone.

I might decide to buy your land, and I may or may not allow you to work it for crops.

You have made a grave miscalculation in your understanding of class and power.
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Old 11-23-2016, 05:37 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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Providing healthcare in the USA is complicated, and trump is a simpleton. Most of the GOP doesn't care about anything but their own money.

Yes, it's hard to care about the electorate that mostly thinks "I don't want government to mess with my social security or healthcare", but other countries have figured it out.

I'm guessing Paul Ryan will write the GOP plan, and send those folks a voucher that won't pay diddly in an unregulated healthcare market.

Hey, we're gonna put them back in the coal mines to further destroy our planet. They be dyin' anyway....
Are you so shortsighted you think Trump actually works by himself ?
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Old 11-23-2016, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
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I have a term for this phenomenon: Political Stockholm Syndrome.
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