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Old 11-28-2016, 11:01 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
The hard truth is that millions of voters bit hard on the baloney being served up by a big BS merchant.

If you were buying what Trump was selling, then it's on you as much as it is on him. Because so much of his steamy rhetoric was so over the top that even he didn't believe was he was spouting. He's a sales guy and always has been. He'll promise anything to close the deal.

Delivering on promises has never been something he was very good at. Just witness the long line of contractors he's shorted over the decades. And that's why he keeps an army of lawyers employed full time to help cover his tracks.

That's his lifelong record. All those hoping that he's now a changed man are just deluding themselves.
Can't disagree with a word of this. Amusing how the Trump supporters can't really refute this, the best they can come up with is dredging up some old Hillary Clinton or Obama reference. HRC and BHO are ancient history, gone and forgotten and irrelevant at this point.

This is one of Trump's most effective strategies - say anything at any time to score a point or win an election or close a deal - then backpedal, deny, lie, spin, prevaricate, flip-flop; whatever seems to work. He successfully horns-waggled half the voting public in this last election with these tactics.
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Old 11-28-2016, 11:04 AM
 
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....so can we say 'told you so' yet? Con artist huckster extraordinaire.

BTW, campaign promises not fullfilled by Obama were mostly due to an obstructionist Congress.

Trump doesn't have that excuse. This is a guy who flip-flopped on a daily basis because he has no idea of what he thinks about anything other than branding or PR.

Vegas should be taking bets on how many and which of Trump's rally promises will fall by the wayside.
It's only a matter of time...
Koale
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Old 11-28-2016, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Can't disagree with a word of this. Amusing how the Trump supporters can't really refute this, the best they can come up with is dredging up some old Hillary Clinton or Obama reference. HRC and BHO are ancient history, gone and forgotten and irrelevant at this point.

This is one of Trump's most effective strategies - say anything at any time to score a point or win an election or close a deal - then backpedal, deny, lie, spin, prevaricate, flip-flop; whatever seems to work. He successfully horns-waggled half the voting public in this last election with these tactics.
The sadder thing is we're going to see a complete about face from these Conservatives on the things they used to discredit and smear Obama's administration.

I guarantee that once Trump is in office, we'll never hear about how it's the President's job to mend race relations or fix the Black unemployment rate.
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Old 11-28-2016, 11:15 AM
 
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He can kiss any damn re-election goodbye if he is just to go "Obama it". Promise the world, and deliver NOTHING. The American people aren't going to be hoodwinked again and give a 2nd term to another liar

Why don't people follow through on s*** anymore??
Plenty have pointed out that he is a Huckster.
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Old 11-28-2016, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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He can kiss any damn re-election goodbye if he is just to go "Obama it". Promise the world, and deliver NOTHING. The American people aren't going to be hoodwinked again and give a 2nd term to another liar

Why don't people follow through on s*** anymore??
That's why more and more people don't vote. They don't want to ever again feel like they were manipulated into going to vote for someone based on stuff that only later turned out to be lies. In other words, you don't ever again want to feel like a gullible fool from voting for someone.
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Old 11-28-2016, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Nashville, TN -
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If you believe ANYTHING the NY Times and Krugman says, I have a bridge for sale CHEAP. Interested?


YOU'RE the one who voted for Trump, so you've already bought the bridge HE was selling. But it ain't gonna be cheap!

And I do apologize. I forgot that Trumpsters are more likely to believe "authoritative" sources like Brietbart.com and InfoWars than you are anything a Nobel Prize-winning, former MIT and Princeton University professor writes for the award-winning, highly respected NY Times.

You know, the same NY Times your hero said this about:" I have great respect for The New York Times. Tremendous respect. It’s very special. Always has been very special," and “The Times is a great, great American jewel.”

You don't believe Trump now?
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Old 11-28-2016, 12:19 PM
 
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YOU'RE the one who voted for Trump, so you've already bought the bridge HE was selling. But it ain't gonna be cheap!

And I do apologize. I forgot that Trumpsters are more likely to believe "authoritative" sources like Brietbart.com and InfoWars than you are anything a Nobel Prize-winning, former MIT and Princeton University professor writes for the award-winning, highly respected NY Times.

You know, the same NY Times your hero said this about:" I have great respect for The New York Times. Tremendous respect. It’s very special. Always has been very special," and “The Times is a great, great American jewel.”

You don't believe Trump now?
I would bet dollars to donuts that you'll find some Trump quote saying EXACTLY the opposite when the NY Times said something derogatory about him. Flip-floppin' like a fish on the beach. But his devotees and mindless pawns continue to believe everything he says and promises even if he changes his tune the next day. They have to, otherwise their house of cards will fall apart, and then where will they be?
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Old 11-28-2016, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Texas
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And you swallow EVERYTHING Obama and Hillary, etc. said hook, line and sinker!
It's showing.

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So, what does that make you?
Brimming over with sparkling wit, of course.

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Old 11-28-2016, 05:04 PM
 
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I disagree. I am not sure Bush was trying to do what was best for America. The Neocons that surrounded Bush wanted a permanent military presence in the middle east. They had strategy papers going back to the early 1990's saying this. 9/11 was the perfect event for them. They lied about WMD's and exaggerated the threat of Saddam Hussein for the purpose of achieving that goal. We now have permanent bases in Iraq and Afghanistan and that is not going to change anytime soon. Under 8 years of Obama it did not change and it won't under Trump.

I disagree with what Bush did but he probably achieved the objectives of the Neocons. We are permanently in the middle east and we have ISIS the "boogeyman" whose existence will keep the excuse military spending high.
I may be giving President Bush the benefit of the doubt even though I was no fan of his & his mistakes. I agree the neocons are an opportunist bunch at best (also giving some benefit of the doubt here as well).

I especially agree the natural consequences of the tragic mistakes made at the inception will not change under the reign of Mr. Trump.

Why would it when the President-elect is busy surrounding himself with establishment insiders & neocons left over from the Bush administration?
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Old 11-28-2016, 05:08 PM
 
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He can kiss any damn re-election goodbye if he is just to go "Obama it". Promise the world, and deliver NOTHING. The American people aren't going to be hoodwinked again and give a 2nd term to another liar

Why don't people follow through on s*** anymore??
hahahaha!

And you people thinks he cared about you, about America, and would stick to his promises to change everything?

LMAO!

Trump's election is the greatest magic trick in the hstory of this coutry..


"Now you see me (and my fake promises)...now you don't!"
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