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Old 11-26-2016, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Right. If Obamacare did not help the problem than repealing it should help with making healthcare better. But if what Trump does doesn't help healthcare, than his moves could boomerang back onto him in the next election.



If having no free market in healthcare will improve things than Trump will be fine in the next election. But if not, in 4 years time there won't be any liberals to hide behind if things go south. Trump should take caution on his move with this.
Yep. Trump and the Republicans damn well better improve our healthcare system. If they don't, they have no one to blame but the Republicans.

 
Old 11-26-2016, 07:08 PM
 
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mean that only the people in it will be called on to fund it.
I doubt that. I would expect the public option to be somehow linked to the general fund. Meaning deficit spending when it comes to that.
 
Old 11-26-2016, 07:10 PM
 
Location: louisville
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I doubt that. I would expect the public option to be somehow linked to the general fund. Meaning deficit spending when it comes to that.
There's a remedy to that too but only 1 senator backs it, mine.
 
Old 11-26-2016, 07:11 PM
 
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I doubt that. I would expect the public option to be somehow linked to the general fund. Meaning deficit spending when it comes to that.
Thanks for admitting that a socialized system cannot support itself without vast amounts of funding from people who don't participate in it. You're a very honest person.
 
Old 11-26-2016, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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It's pretty neat how getting rid of Obamacare would cause 20 million people to lose their insurance when Obamacare didn't insure 20 million people. Is that the new maths?
This is from CNBC: Obamacare repeal would lead to 24 million more people without health insurance
 
Old 11-26-2016, 07:15 PM
 
Location: NJ
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20 million people could lose their insurance. The uninsured often end up in emergency rooms, the most expensive option for receiving health care and one that taxes hospital budgets.

Local hospitals hold hikes to 4 percent and under, fear blow if Obamacare is scrapped | Local | lacrossetribune.com
obamacare had severe repurcussions on hospitals.


of course any dramatic change will impact hospitals....not all change is bad.


obamacare had little to do with healthcare....
 
Old 11-26-2016, 07:16 PM
 
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Before long the articles will state 36 million. And then 45 million. And then 65 million. Etc.
 
Old 11-26-2016, 07:16 PM
 
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Thanks for admitting that a socialized system cannot support itself without vast amounts of funding from people who don't participate in it. You're a very honest person.
I didn't say that. Although that too would not surprise me.

Deficit spending is central money creation, not a subsidy through direct taxation.
 
Old 11-26-2016, 07:19 PM
 
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Yep. Trump and the Republicans damn well better improve our healthcare system. If they don't, they have no one to blame but the Republicans.
That is exactly right. Trump supporters need to keep this in mind if they don't want the liberals to return to power in 2020. I hope that the people Trump surrounds himself with know what their doing. The anger that made the liberals lose power could easily bounce back to the conservatives.
 
Old 11-26-2016, 07:20 PM
 
Location: louisville
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Before long the articles will state 36 million. And then 45 million. And then 65 million. Etc.
I thought... without Obamacare healthcare will leave the US so docs can be free to practice in Cuba and France?
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