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Old 12-01-2016, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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Originally Posted by dashrendar4454 View Post
He's got the nerve to criticize Trump for "only" saving one thousand jobs before he was even sworn in?
He's criticizing it because the deal is more corporate welfare subsidized by the US taxpayers.
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Old 12-01-2016, 10:43 AM
 
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So the Tax payer is making up the difference? Or the potential Carrier customer? Or they just take the hit and rolling with the punches?
They taxes they pay will likely decrease.

Regulations will likely decrease - which will decrease operating costs.

They will not be charged with import fees if they had moved to Mexico.

Whatever the case - Trump created incentives for them to stay and Americans keep their jobs.

Why don't just wait for the details before you start complaining and asking questions?
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Old 12-01-2016, 10:44 AM
 
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We are supposed to be living in a free enterprise economy.

If we do, why is the government involved in paying off companies to hire people?

Rant all you want about the cause or whose fault it was. The bottom line is, we are no different than the other systems deemed evil, like socialism, communism or whatever ism is on the chit list today.

Mexico, China and other 3rd world countries don't play by the same rules and standards....its up to our government to try to level the playing field with tax cuts and tax incentives to look out for the best interests of the American workers......if the government can't do that what good they are for and why we send them to Washington?


we are not forcing anybody to stay......this is business....if the Chinese or Mexican's governments lower their wages, lower their taxes and lower their regulations to bring jobs to their country then we must have a smart government to counter balance that.

you don't counter balance that with the SANDERS approach of higher taxes and higher regulations.


if you don't want companies to leave then offer them reasons to stay and what decides for a company to move is taxes, wages and regulations....bottom line is about money.
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Old 12-01-2016, 10:47 AM
 
Location: NYC
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I voted for Bernie but I have to admit, since then he has dissapointed me far more than made me glad I voted for him. That said, nothing has changed to have made me wish I had voted for anyone other than possibly Vermin Supreme again.
He's nothing but a good old shoe salesman. You'll meet many people like him who knows how to talk the good talk to get sales.
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Old 12-01-2016, 10:48 AM
 
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This is the guy that supported Clinton who proudly ran on a platform of putting mine workers on welfare? He's got the nerve to criticize Trump for "only" saving one thousand jobs before he was even sworn in?
With one fell swoop, he just confirmed that America dodged a bullet by not electing him.
And the "Bern" would have done what, if he was president? Probably would have seized the company, made all the employees members of the government, and paid their wages with taxes. It's the Socialist way, isn't it?

Guess Clinton isn't the only sore loser.
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Old 12-01-2016, 10:49 AM
 
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He's criticizing it because the deal is more corporate welfare subsidized by the US taxpayers.

coming from a socialist that wants more government and wants to give free healthcare and free college to everybody including illegal immigrants and wants Wall Street to pay for it and the American workers with higher taxes.

Bernie has NEVER met an American Corporation that he likes......this is what you get from a socialist that has NEVER work in the private sector in his life and has never manage a business from the ground up. He thinks big government should control the economy because Bernie knows best.
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Old 12-01-2016, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Obama was elected because he said he would end the wars. He even set dates for it to end. We are now in 5 wars.
Right. The troop levels were reduced by 97%, but technically its not over until the last man leaves. Bickering. You have a habit of changing the subject when you have nothing else.
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Old 12-01-2016, 10:53 AM
 
Location: USA
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A bit more complex than that. You can also blame Bush 1 and a GOP Congress as well.
True.

Only Ross Perot was willing to speak out against NAFTA and free trade agreements. Remember the "Giant Sucking Sound"?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ7kn2-GEmM

Unfortunately, it's likely that technology and automation would have eliminated most of those jobs anyway. In hindsight, Hillary should have made that point more forcefully in order to prevent the Rust Belt from tilting toward Trump.
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Old 12-01-2016, 10:56 AM
 
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How about "Mexico agrees to pay for the wall."

Its those damn tunnels, though.
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Old 12-01-2016, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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coming from a socialist that wants more government and wants to give free healthcare and free college to everybody including illegal immigrants and wants Wall Street to pay for it and the American workers with higher taxes.

Bernie has NEVER met an American Corporation that he likes......this is what you get from a socialist that has NEVER work in the private sector in his life and has never manage a business from the ground up. He thinks big government should control the economy because Bernie knows best.
OK. So you admit you're fine with Trump's crony capitalism and having the government pick winners and losers in this market.
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