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It doesn't have to. They only have to pick up 24 seats. And the average pickup is just under 30. I wouldn't count on that not happening either. Two years is a long time and you never know what its going to be like then.
I think it's safe to say that looking at past elections is probably not a good indicator.
The Democrats drove an over the top liberal agenda back in 09 and 10, for example the energy bill that had even less support than Obamacare.
Then you have Obamacare itself.... I don't think the Republicans will be making the same mistake and with Trump at the helm there is many policies he supports that get support from Democrats. I expect to see a Conservative lite agenda focusing on the economy and fixing Obamacare, that is all they need to accomplish and I will admit fixing Obamacare is the biggest hurdle.
Meanwhile the Democrats are putting Pelosi in leadership positions.... that ultra liberal policy is just not going to fly with moderates and even if they put a moderate into her position that's not going to fly with the fringe. To many different agendas going in opposite directions and nothing to coalesce around.
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Meanwhile the Democrats are putting Pelosi in leadership positions.... that ultra liberal policy is just not going to fly with moderates and even if they put a moderate into her position that's not going to fly with the fringe. To many different agendas going in opposite directions and nothing to coalesce around.
And there it is, my biggest problem with this discussion.
if you believe Trump won Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan on an economic message, then he did so by running entirely against the Republican party platform and even to the left of Democrats like Pelosi.
...Trump at the helm there is many policies he supports that get support from Democrats.
This is what greatly worries me. From day one I always knew he was a progressive (look at his past comments and positions just 30 months before the election, not to mention his various hints of positions since then). It worries me we will end up with a variation of a Bush 2.0 (no I don't mean that in the stupidity of the progressives position).
I doubt it matters to anyone outside the political class. Trump has the potential to completely rejuvenate the dem party in two years if he stumbles as badly as many think he will. Or it could go the other way. Pelosi is a secondary consideration.
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I doubt it matters to anyone outside the political class. Trump has the potential to completely rejuvenate the dem party in two years if he stumbles as badly as many think he will. Or it could go the other way. Pelosi is a secondary consideration.
I doubt it matters to anyone outside the political class. Trump has the potential to completely rejuvenate the dem party in two years if he stumbles as badly as many think he will. Or it could go the other way. Pelosi is a secondary consideration.
This is what I told people who were supporting him during the primaries. If they support a guy who does not stand for true constitutionalism, who does not push and support the concepts of hard government reduction and the promotion of state rights, individualism, and the basic foundation of this countries founding... well...
We will end up with a democrat rule for the next several decades because people will see the conservatives/right/republicans/Constitutionalists as no different than the left, so why bother?
When others were spelling doom of Trumps reign based on some stupid radical claim, I was seeing it being the "same" as the progressives or similar (aka a Bush sr/Bush jr/Clinton/Obama/Carter) and that would cause people to give up on constitutional based focus.
I don't care what anyone says, we failed when we didn't select constitutionally focused candidates like Rand Paul and Cruz this election. What Trump provides is not "conservative", is not "constitutionally focused", it is merely yet another elite in office.
The recent election showed that the DNC is just as ****ed as the RNC.
Both parties need complete overhauls, and that includes the clowns in them. They need new people with new ideas.
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