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Old 11-30-2016, 12:58 PM
 
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He's talking about the minimum wage.

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Old 11-30-2016, 12:59 PM
 
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The context was regarding minimum wage, OP. This was clarified in an interview after the debate.Trump: I never said wages are too high - POLITICO

Thank you.

Yet another derangement topic that turned out not to be true.
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Old 11-30-2016, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Keosauqua, Iowa
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The full quote is “Our taxes are too high. Our wages are too high. We have to compete with other countries.” Sounds like he's giving reasons why we can't compete in the global marketplace rather than commenting solely on what workers are paid in relation to their value.
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Old 11-30-2016, 01:33 PM
 
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Trumps comments are often quite vague and he can therefore twist them into whatever people want to hear. He's "clarified" three times now what he meant by "wages are too high", what he actually meant to say is that the minimum wage should be $10/hour at the Federal level, but then he went on to say that really the states should be making the minimum wage. Three statements, three different meanings behind them. Trump has done this on a wide range of policies, not just wages.

I honestly don't know if it's a tactic of his, or if he's just speaking without thinking.

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Old 11-30-2016, 01:53 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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He's talking about the minimum wage.
You agree, then, that $7.25/hr is too high?
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Old 11-30-2016, 01:57 PM
 
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I no longer make minimum wage. I've actually started there twice and worked my way up.

Secondly minimum wage punishes those who work the most efficient while rewards those who are lazy. Yes, life isn't fair, but there are some things that should never happen. This is what happens when the Federal Government starts regulating areas they have no business touching. I do think they have a place to impose labor laws, but I don't believe they have the authority to tell you what you have to pay someone.

The people that are more valuable to the company should get paid more than those who are the least valuable.

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Old 11-30-2016, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Old Hippie Heaven
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Truth is many people are paid way more than they are actually worth in the workforce. That's why the minimum wage needs to be abolished. I've worked in these environments and I can tell you it's not fair when I'm making the same as the lazy bum standing next to me. It has nothing to do with life worth.
Or - the lazy bum supervising you or the even lazier one running the company. Neither of whom are working for anything like the minimum wage.

I suppose this depends on where you've worked, but IME, it isn't the lowest paid workers who are the laziest.
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Old 11-30-2016, 03:27 PM
 
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The full quote is “Our taxes are too high. Our wages are too high. We have to compete with other countries.” Sounds like he's giving reasons why we can't compete in the global marketplace rather than commenting solely on what workers are paid in relation to their value.


Your post hits the nail on the head
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Old 11-30-2016, 03:34 PM
 
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He's talking about the minimum wage.
Because the minimum wage is not a wage? 8% of our workforce makes minimum wage, those people who make the minimum which by definition means the least those people make too much money, everyone else is underpaid? That is some kind of spin.
This is one of those things that is perplexing to me, you guys think factory unskilled labor is v worth $25/hr but the guy flipping the Burger f him $7.25 is too much. They are both unskilled labor you are flipping a Burger or screwing the same four bolts in dishwasher same thing.
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Old 11-30-2016, 03:38 PM
 
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Did you ever consider the fact that you were, perhaps, underpaid? It's only matter of perspective. I have a house cleaner who I pay $20-$25 an hour. She sweeps, vacuums, scrubs and mops. It's all fairly simple, unskilled work, and I paid her exactly what I think that work is worth. I pay babysitter $15 to sit on my couch and watch television while my children sleep upstairs. I can't imagine what "work" people think is worth less than 7.25 an hour.
Making $25/hr working for yourself and making $25/hr working as an employee for somebody else are two different things.
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