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Old 12-01-2016, 12:33 AM
 
Location: US
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Because he did:

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/firs...-are-too-high/

How does this jibe with his promises to help the US working-class?
He is willing to stand up to companies to keep jobs in the US both through threats and incentives. He also said he thinks minimum wage should be $10 per hour and areas with high cost of living can increase them accordingly.

On the other hand, most of the feel good policies supported by liberals will just increase the cost of living. The elites can afford to buy Teslas, while they snub their noses at those stuck with old cars, trucks as being hateful of the environment. It's like ummm... maybe most people cannot afford a $100,000 car nor can afford to pay $5 per gallon because you want to declare war on the oil industry.
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Old 12-01-2016, 01:08 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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He is willing to stand up to companies to keep jobs in the US both through threats and incentives. He also said he thinks minimum wage should be $10 per hour and areas with high cost of living can increase them accordingly.

On the other hand, most of the feel good policies supported by liberals will just increase the cost of living. The elites can afford to buy Teslas, while they snub their noses at those stuck with old cars, trucks as being hateful of the environment. It's like ummm... maybe most people cannot afford a $100,000 car nor can afford to pay $5 per gallon because you want to declare war on the oil industry.
Well I'm pretty sure people won't be buying new cars if they are only earning $10 per hour....They will be lucky if they can afford a beater.... If Trump had his way America will become a third world nation.
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Old 12-01-2016, 05:01 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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op and others, he really was referring to min wage in some cases, not all wages being too high.
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Old 12-01-2016, 05:04 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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For a State like Mississippi, where the true poverty level is only $6,000 annually, then yes $7.25/hour is way too high.
You are in favor of keeping people in poverty, then? As long as it's not you, right?

The current minimum wage equals about $15k/yr. Gross. Before taxes. That figure also includes a 40-hour week, which many if not most jobs do not offer. So, in essence, working a minimum wage job in Mississippi nets one poverty-level wages.

And you think that's good?
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Old 12-01-2016, 05:06 AM
 
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You don't prove the NY Times is right by linking another NY Times article.

You have been quoting such sources here for the last 1.5 years in vain attempt to tell us why Trump won't be elected. You got it wrong 100%.
Actually, I quoted the same article to show that the article itself quoted trump, along with the actual quotes of trump's remarks. But, you won't admit that trump said what he said. No matter how many articles anyone provides, or video, or tweets, you seem convinced that quoting him is not actually providing exactly what he said.

You are also incorrect on my posts for the last 1.5 years. I posted things that showed WHY trump SHOULD NOT GET ELECTED. There is a difference. And, I freely admit to gleefully bashing all things trumpist.

You posted not only why he should get elected and that he would get elected, you also took ample opportunity to gleefully bash the other side - so, dear, you really don't have the moral high road to lecture us on other people's posts. But, hey, the country goes the way it goes. Wise or not. And, while we still have freedom of speech, the opposition side is free to say what they think. Bummer, eh?
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Old 12-01-2016, 05:09 AM
 
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You are in favor of keeping people in poverty, then? As long as it's not you, right?
This is a fallacious response. Nobody is in favor of keeping people in poverty. But it's been demonstrated that after 60 years of minimum wage, we still have poverty.

Your point is disproved.
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Old 12-01-2016, 05:14 AM
 
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I'm glad to see that certain people don't think that CEO wages are too high in this country. Clearly, they believe that when trump said 'wages are too high', he wasn't talking about high paying wages, just the minimum wage. Although, he really didn't say 'minimum wage is too high'. He said we can't compete because wages are too high. Perhaps we can argue about the higher wages being too high?
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Old 12-01-2016, 05:22 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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This is a fallacious response. Nobody is in favor of keeping people in poverty. But it's been demonstrated that after 60 years of minimum wage, we still have poverty.

Your point is disproved.
No, it isn't. The poster I responded to thinks people in Mississippi should earn a minimum wage of $4.00. That equates to poverty level in Mississippi (according to her unsubstantiated information). Therefore, she thinks people should work but stay in poverty.

If the minimum wage had kept up with inflation there would not be so many problems.

The current minimum wage has been the same for seven years. Are you still making the same wage you made seven years ago?
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Old 12-01-2016, 05:40 AM
 
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I'm glad to see that certain people don't think that CEO wages are too high in this country.....
I think CEOs get paid far too much.

With that said, I agree with Trump on the minimum wage.
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Old 12-01-2016, 07:14 AM
 
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I think CEOs get paid far too much.

With that said, I agree with Trump on the minimum wage.
Since trump didn't actually say 'minimum wages are too high. We can't compete', he said 'wages are too high. We can't compete'. the same people who say that the MSM prints lies about trump, are putting words in his mouth. He didn't distinguish between levels of wages, he said 'wages are too high'. So, it is impossible to 'agree with' what he said on minimum wage, because he didn't say it. He wasn't really talking about minimum wage, he was talking about factory wages.

On to the argument over whether wages are too high or not...

If you look at the typical pay of a factory worker, since that is really what trump was talking about, US wages are high in comparison to factory wages in other countries. But, on the other hand, the cost of living in the US is higher than in other countries.

To be competitive with factory jobs, either the rest of the world has to raise wages, or the US has to lower wages. Which solution is better? Alternatively, the US can bring back manufacturing, and use a lot of robots to keep costs down. That wouldn't bring back jobs, tho.

I agree that CEOs are grossly overpaid. But, I sincerely believe that trump is not interested in doing anything to make CEO pay more reasonable.
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