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Old 12-03-2016, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Sweden
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Originally Posted by FJR1 View Post
How are we wrong? Is your country not infested by the third world? Is all news coming out of Sweden wrong?



Read more: https://sputniknews.com/europe/20160...lice-migrants/

Am I supposed to believe you, or literally every other source of info that states the exact opposite of you?
All sources?
I only see links to alternative news sites that "wants to talk about the real truth that no one else dares" or sensationalist media like Daily Mail.

I don´t deny that we are having problems, but most problems are caused by gangs, not by all muslims.
Most of them come here to get away from the terrorists in their home countries.
What I am trying to protest against here is headlines like the one in this thread.
It suggests that the Swedish government wants all muslims to make a promise, while the article is about one festival.
The organizers of that festival doesn´t say anything about making any promises in the press release that I posted.
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Old 12-03-2016, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Isn´t it weird that the press release says nothing about it?

Långsiktiga insatser för att skapa ett tryggare festivalsverige - Norrköpings kommun

Also, the organizers of one festival is not Sweden.
You really do believe all the dumb **** you are reading, don´t you?
There have been many stories and news reports here in the US that there has been a significant increase in rape, a rape crisis, in Sweden of Swedish women by Muslim refugees in the last few years. Is that information incorrect?

Here is an example of one article:

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

In 1975, the Swedish parliament unanimously decided to change the former homogeneous Sweden into a multicultural country. Forty years later the dramatic consequences of this experiment emerge: violent crime has increased by 300%.

If one looks at the number of rapes, however, the increase is even worse. In 1975, 421 rapes were reported to the police; in 2014, it was 6,620. That is an increase of 1,472%.

Sweden is now number two on the global list of rape countries. According to a survey from 2010, Sweden, with 53.2 rapes per 100,000 inhabitants, is surpassed only by tiny Lesotho in Southern Africa, with 91.6 rapes per 100,000 inhabitants.
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Old 12-03-2016, 12:17 PM
 
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A Swedish festival blighted by sexual assault complaints has faced ridicule after ordering revellers to sign up to a written set of 'values'.
Always try to look at the positive side of things. At least Muslims are raping adults now, instead of kids. Progress!
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Old 12-03-2016, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Sweden
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There have been many stories and news reports here in the US that there has been a significant increase in rape, a rape crisis, in Sweden of Swedish women by Muslim refugees in the last few years. Is that information incorrect?

Here is an example of one article:

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

In 1975, the Swedish parliament unanimously decided to change the former homogeneous Sweden into a multicultural country. Forty years later the dramatic consequences of this experiment emerge: violent crime has increased by 300%.

If one looks at the number of rapes, however, the increase is even worse. In 1975, 421 rapes were reported to the police; in 2014, it was 6,620. That is an increase of 1,472%.

Sweden is now number two on the global list of rape countries. According to a survey from 2010, Sweden, with 53.2 rapes per 100,000 inhabitants, is surpassed only by tiny Lesotho in Southern Africa, with 91.6 rapes per 100,000 inhabitants.
The increase is caused by a change in the law. Most sexual offenses that includes force are now considered a rape, also if a man rapes a woman everyday for a year that would count as 365 cases and not just one.
Sweden doesn´t point out an offenders race or religion. There are only swedes and non-swedes.

I don´t think it is available in English, but you have all the correct information here:
https://www.bra.se/download/18.1ff47...exualbrott.pdf
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Old 12-03-2016, 12:42 PM
 
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I wonder if Swedish women are amused that Swedish men are on internet forums explaining why it's OK to rape them.
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Old 12-03-2016, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Austin
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The increase is caused by a change in the law. Most sexual offenses that includes force are now considered a rape, also if a man rapes a woman everyday for a year that would count as 365 cases and not just one.
Sweden doesn´t point out an offenders race or religion. There are only swedes and non-swedes.

I don´t think it is available in English, but you have all the correct information here:
https://www.bra.se/download/18.1ff47...exualbrott.pdf
How is it, then, that in 2008, Sweden's neighbor Denmark only had 7.3 rapes per 100,000 inhabitants compared to 53.2 in Sweden?

Danish legislation is not very different from Sweden's, and there is no obvious reason why Danish women should be less inclined to report rape than their Swedish counterparts.

In 2011, 6,509 rapes were reported to the Swedish police -- but only 392 in Denmark. The population of Denmark is about half the size of Sweden's, so even adjusted for size, the discrepancy is significant.

In Sweden, the authorities do what they can to conceal the origin of the rapists. In Denmark, the state's official statistical office, Statistics Denmark, revealed that in 2010 more than half of convicted rapists had an immigrant background.


Sorry, I can't read Swedish to look at your source.

There does appear to be a very significant amount of rape in Sweden compared to neighbor Denmark, at least according to the statistics in the source I provided. If the stats are correct, Sweden is the rape capital of the Western world.

My question, generally, is are Swedes unconcerned about rape in Sweden? Do the Swedes think these rapes are committed by Muslim immigrants or second generation Muslim Swedes of immigrant parents? Or perhaps, Swedes, particularly Swedish women, don't perceive there is any problem or proliferation of rape crime at all?

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Old 12-03-2016, 12:55 PM
 
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How are we wrong? Is your country not infested by the third world? Is all news coming out of Sweden wrong?



Read more: https://sputniknews.com/europe/20160...lice-migrants/

Am I supposed to believe you, or literally every other source of info that states the exact opposite of you?
Well yeah, you might not be wrong but you have no room to castigate others:

Elusive crime wave data shows frightening toll of illegal immigrant criminals | Fox News

You need to temper your arrogant silliness over other countries immigration results with a "yuuuuge" dose of remembering your enticing these illegals because your greedy businesses LOVE them.

In other words; clean up your own backyard before looking over anyone else's fence with the stink eye.
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Old 12-03-2016, 01:00 PM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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Heaven forbid we actually listen to the poster IN SWEDEN, no way, can't do that, that's crazy talk.
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Old 12-03-2016, 01:03 PM
 
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All sources?
I only see links to alternative news sites that "wants to talk about the real truth that no one else dares" or sensationalist media like Daily Mail.
You see only links to alt news sites because the mainstream news won't report on their pet Muslims raping anything that moves, four legs or two.

Guess you Swedes haven't figured out yet the press lies to you.
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Old 12-03-2016, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Heaven forbid we actually listen to the poster IN SWEDEN, no way, can't do that, that's crazy talk.
I for one appreciate BigSwede telling us about his perceptions and experience in his country and allowing us to ask questions and share what Americans have been told in our press about a significant rise rapes in Sweden with a link to Muslim refugees. I don't consider what we are doing "crazy talk" and I don't understand why you do.
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