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Old 12-03-2016, 08:23 AM
 
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Bull****, but nice way to try to twist the truth around.
Good rebuttal, I'm dazzled by its nuance.
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Old 12-03-2016, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Houston
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All spending bills originate in the House. The House has been controlled by Republicans since 2010. The Republicans also took over the House in '94 two years into Clinton's term.

As someone is stated the economy is cyclical. If you take over during a recession, yes, the economy is almost certain to improve during your term(s). If our economy was running like it did between 1984 and 2001 Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump would not have been in the running. People wanted change and it was the economy, stupid.

Clinton benefitted from the peace dividend along with the NASDAQ bubble. That peace dividend was more the result of the policies of Ronald Reagan than any other American.
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Old 12-03-2016, 08:29 AM
 
Location: USA
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Correlation is not causation.

Presidents have little control over economies. The late 90s boom was caused by the PC and internet revolution. The 2008-2016 depression was caused by the collapse of a massive real estate bubble. Technology has eliminated millions of "medium skill" jobs and replaced them with more high skill and low skill jobs, regardless of globalization.
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Old 12-03-2016, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Economy isn't really great now . Lots of poverty. Low home ownership rates.
Stock market isn't good indication of how the economy is doing
Many people don't own stocks and if they do it's in accounts they can't access until they retire
Without taking very big penalties .

$46.5 Million people on food stamps!
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Old 12-03-2016, 08:43 AM
 
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Correlation is not causation.

Presidents have little control over economies. The late 90s boom was caused by the PC and internet revolution. The 2008-2016 depression was caused by the collapse of a massive real estate bubble. Technology has eliminated millions of "medium skill" jobs and replaced them with more high skill and low skill jobs, regardless of globalization.
There is hope for you.
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Old 12-03-2016, 08:58 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Yeah, I forgot how stellar the economics of the Bushes were at the end and all.
Let's see, a storm of biblical proportions and levee system neglected for several prior administrations came to pass.


Y2K panic was a boon to computer consultants temporarily creating jobs and employment which came to an end making things appear worse.


9.11 occurred and an unprecedented response was required.


GWB cautioned that fannie and freddie were in trouble. Dem response was to suggest GWB was a racists..shelia jackson lee, barney frank and others.


Dem charlie rangell was in charge of the tax code.


Clinton gutted glass stegall, passed nafta, companies began to move outside the US as competing companies blended into single dominant companies.


So it was all bush's fault, all the unprecedented events magnified any misdirection in economic policy which would have been barely a blip on the radar.
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Old 12-03-2016, 09:29 AM
 
Location: zooland 1
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Why is it that the policies of Democratic administrations over the past 30 years have delivered a robust economy (low unemployment, increasing wages, bull markets, healthy dollar) only to have Republican administrations take over and drag us into recession? Time to hunker down.
Dear op..since you have increased your prosperity under Barry and bill ..please send some of it to me..because my taxes have been paying for others in vastly inordinate amount

Income redistribution is good if you're the one receiving it. .

Naw..I don't want anything from you..I pay my way and earn my keep and then some


9 for 8

Every dollar due and not one more cent

Unless it's doper tax . Then go for it...because they cheat
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Old 12-03-2016, 10:24 AM
 
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Prosperity to who, the uber rich of course, yet the Obama administration brought one foreign policy fiasco after another, from ending the surge in Iraq to fomenting the Arab Spring that brought chaos to the Middle East to the Iran deal.

World poverty and despair.
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Old 12-03-2016, 10:44 AM
 
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Why is it that the policies of Democratic administrations over the past 30 years have delivered a robust economy (low unemployment, increasing wages, bull markets, healthy dollar) only to have Republican administrations take over and drag us into recession? Time to hunker down.
Help the Republicans out and list the policies and how they impact the economy!
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Old 12-03-2016, 10:48 AM
 
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Sure increasing government and low paying part-time service industry jobs is "prosperity".

We will see won't we? Then we'll truly be able to compare.
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