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If I'm a juror you are going to be found guilty unless you can show a real, actual reason your life was at risk. Some guy yelling at you in traffic is not a valid reason. Getting punched isn't even necessarily a valid reason.
If you and I are both on that jury, my not-guilty vote is guaranteed to cancel out your guilty. It only takes one of us to decide he walks if we feel the facts warranted the action.
If you and I are both on that jury, my not-guilty vote is guaranteed to cancel out your guilty. It only takes one of us to decide he walks if we feel the facts warranted the action.
That only makes for a hung jury. Luckily it's not likely that society is going to accept people going around shooting people anytime in the near future.
That only makes for a hung jury. Luckily it's not likely that society is going to accept people going around shooting people anytime in the near future.
A hung jury means that you wouldn't be able to convict him, and then the prosecution must start all over. I'd bet after a second hung jury, he would walk.
I will always accept a person using deadly force to protect themselves. So does a very large chunk of society.
A hung jury means that you wouldn't be able to convict him, and then the prosecution must start all over. I'd bet after a second hung jury, he would walk.
I will always accept a person using deadly force to protect themselves. So does a very large chunk of society.
a person yelling at you outside your car doesn't require deadly force. If you are scared just drive off. That's the problem with the gun issue. People keep trying to push the line of reasonable fear lower and lower. If Gasser beats this case, then like half of all these black on black murderers should be let out. Many of those murders were just people yelling and someone started shooting to protect themselves.
a person yelling at you outside your car doesn't require deadly force. If you are scared just drive off. That's the problem with the gun issue. People keep trying to push the line of reasonable fear lower and lower. If Gasser beats this case, then like half of all these black on black murderers should be let out. Many of those murders were just people yelling and someone started shooting to protect themselves.
It is worse than that the shooter apparently had multiple opportunities to withdraw from the altercation; in addition to being accused of Road Rage at the same intersection 10 years before.
The facts supporting the shooter don't seem to add up but get ready for the "feared for my life" defense.
The theme in my post, which anyone with a minute ability to process information would understand, is about waiting until the facts are in so one can make an informed decision.
It's not my post that lacks logic, it's your lack of understanding the logic in my post. That's on you.
Do you wait for the facts when Black Lives Matter are the alleged culprits behind crimes?
a person yelling at you outside your car doesn't require deadly force. If you are scared just drive off. That's the problem with the gun issue. People keep trying to push the line of reasonable fear lower and lower. If Gasser beats this case, then like half of all these black on black murderers should be let out. Many of those murders were just people yelling and someone started shooting to protect themselves.
Are you stating that it is a fact that Gasser could drive off and wasn't inhibeted by cars in front of him?
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Originally Posted by Vacanegro
It is worse than that the shooter apparently had multiple opportunities to withdraw from the altercation; in addition to being accused of Road Rage at the same intersection 10 years before.
The facts supporting the shooter don't seem to add up but get ready for the "feared for my life" defense.
If I'm a juror you are going to be found guilty unless you can show a real, actual reason your life was at risk. Some guy yelling at you in traffic is not a valid reason.
It is dishonest to say all that was happening was the shooter is getting yelled at as far as this case is concerned.
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Originally Posted by pknopp
Getting punched isn't even necessarily a valid reason.
I'll go you one better. You don't have to be punched in order to use lethal force. Someone coming towards you in an aggressive manner while threatening you is grounds for using lethal force.
When the other guy has a weapon and he's coming at you, not when a guy is banging on your car window and uttering threats.
So even if you an 80 year old 90 lb woman and the aggressor is a 300 lb young male he must have a weapon to be a threat to you?
Unarmed people rob, rape and kill every day.
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