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Old 12-09-2016, 02:35 PM
 
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I honestly cannot even believe this is a question. Republicans are almost always against immigration and some politicians have made very ignorant comments. Why a minority would ever vote Republican is beyond me.
Can you please provide examples of how Republicans have been against legal immigration?
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Old 12-09-2016, 02:38 PM
 
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The Hispanic community is very conservative and into family- but have a problems- because they also believe in social programs - which one wins out?

That's been a problem for MANY Americans, white, black, Hispanic, Asian. For the past several decades there has been no socially conservative but fiscally moderate or liberal party. Many people do believe in programs that aid Americans at the worst such as temporary welfare, and at their best such as financial aid for college. Immigrants tend to not be these radically libertarian minded people.


Many will vote Democrat but keep their beliefs about certain social issues to themselves. Or many will vote Republican because of the social issues but again keep their economic beliefs to themselves as they don't believe in the free wheeling extremely pro corporate agenda of the GOP.


Trump did usher in a new era for the GOP. He brought in that populist wing into the mainstream where they're against free trade and the worst excesses of the libertarian shift in the GOP.


Now if the GOP were to finally put a nail in the coffin of being the "racist" party the Dems have constructed, then with this new populist bent, they'd be unstoppable and would roll over the Dems, because many new immigrants are conservative socially but economically centrist or populist.
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Old 12-09-2016, 02:41 PM
 
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They support the Democrats because they want more Latinos in this country whether they be legal or illegal and the hand outs that they will get from the Democrats. They like the Democrats for their amnesty stances also.

Many Latinos are more liberally oriented on social issues that a group of Republicans told themselves is the case.

All people vote for their own reasons.
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Old 12-09-2016, 02:41 PM
 
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That's an interesting theory because historically Jews have tended Democrat mostly out of this notion that the GOP was the WASP party. There has always been this tendency among new immigrant groups to feel alienated from American culture and somehow thinking the GOP represents that alienating American culture. The Jews were sort of the first immigrant group that self identified as different from the WASP culture, mostly due out of prejudices seen in America and Europe, but politicizing it through left wing causes. It just may come out of a disdain for the WASPy American culture and it's adherence to capitalism (which ironically is now a mix of Polish, Irish Catholics, Italians, Orthodox/conservative Jews and even white Cubans) because they feel as though it is opposed to them.
You make an interesting comment especially the bolded. I do agree WASPs are or at least were more libertarian and 'free' market leaning by nature. The thing is I know plenty of WASPs going back a great deal of time and they are generally as pro-Jewish and pro-Israel as anyone until given a reason not to be. So Jews need to get the stick out of their ass.

I think WASPs are given a bad name and what many others don't realizes is that fellow WASPs take more of their crap than anyone. They are classist and not really so much racialist/ethnocentric as the Left and non-wasps make it out. One could debate who stepped on who's toes first.

I'm sticking with the conclusion that non-whites counter vote whites out of ethnocentrism and communist leanings.
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Old 12-09-2016, 02:42 PM
 
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I honestly cannot even believe this is a question. Republicans are almost always against immigration and some politicians have made very ignorant comments. Why a minority would ever vote Republican is beyond me.
It was raised because the left likes to make immigration issues, which affect the majority of central Americans and Mexicans as issues for all Latinos. Even if other Latinos sympathize with the Mexican/Central American immigrants, they don't fall in line to vote for their issues all the time, as shown with Cubans. Democrats just love to put people in boxes. I don't think they even know how to function without those boxes.
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Old 12-09-2016, 02:44 PM
 
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Can you please provide examples of how Republicans have been against legal immigration?
Didn't Trump want to ban all Muslims from entering the country? The last time I was at the doctor, close to half of the doctors had a Middle Eastern sounding last name, so I'd assume they are Muslim. Just like any group of people, not all Muslims are bad.
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Old 12-09-2016, 02:48 PM
 
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Your seeing thousands daily fleeing the failed socialist basket case of south america to come in this country. And yet you keep voting democrat that want to turn us into another socialist basket case. I just don't get it?
Perhaps because Only in USA You don't have Tuition Free universities?
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Old 12-09-2016, 02:51 PM
 
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Didn't Trump wanted to ban all Muslims from entering the country? The last time I was at the doctor, close to half of the doctors had a Middle Eastern sounding last name, so I'd assume they are Muslim.
Not true. He proposed a temporary ban allowing Muslims into the country until they could be well vetted so terrorists posing as immigrants could be prevented from entering the country. The current vetting system obviously wasn't working. His statement was in reaction San Bernardino attack. He never said all Muslims would be permanently banned because of their religion.

Do you have any legitimate examples where Republicans were against legal immigration?
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Old 12-09-2016, 02:52 PM
 
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I honestly cannot even believe this is a question. Republicans are almost always against immigration and some politicians have made very ignorant comments. Why a minority would ever vote Republican is beyond me.
Wrong. Republicans have been for open borders for many decades to skim and profit off of. But they're now starting to realize an open border will result in a one party communism and the loss of conserving anything and everything under the American sun.

Why would a majority member ever vote for Democrats should be beyond anyone but can be explained by jealousy of each other and communist/authoritarian leanings.
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Old 12-09-2016, 02:59 PM
 
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The "hispanic" community does not really exist. They are a political fabrication thats used for the purpose of securing goverment funds and for fake identity politics.

They dont actually have anything in common, so there's no categorical statements you can make about all so called "Latinos".

Take the immigration issue for example, which is widely reported as being a "Latino" issue, but its really not.

Think about it: Why would a PuertoRican care about immigration? They are citizens who can go and come as they please. Immigration has never been an issue for them. Why would a Cuban care about immigration? They dont care either because it does not affect them. All they have to do is make it to the U.S. Theyre only concerned with foreign policy with the Castro Regime.

Immigration is a Mexican issue.

It's useless to even ask questions about "Latinos" because there will be no meaningful answers that apply to all of them. They are dozens of different unrelated nationality groups that are being statistically grouped for political reasons.
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