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Old 12-13-2016, 03:57 AM
 
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If you believe that, then expect the "Gestapo" to come for you some morning about 3 am never to be seen again.
Be Grateful you even had a chance to Vote,
and can say stupid things without being shot. Grab a box of crayons and accept the will of the people. You can try again in 8 years.
In all fairness, Hitler was voted in too.
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Old 12-13-2016, 03:59 AM
 
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And everyone who believes the Russians wanted Trump over Hillary and hacked the election, put on your tin foil helmets and stand on your heads to await further transmissions.
So its just a cute little coinky-dink that the man Trump nominated for SoS has extremely close ties with Russia? That Trump is against sanctions? That his potential SoS stands to gain a lot if sanctions are lifted on Russia? All just coinky-dink, eh?
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Old 12-13-2016, 04:04 AM
 
Location: Itinerant
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Watched Kelly file last night, (someone else was filling in) and they went from start to end pretending that the investigation was all about trying to change the outcome of the election. Even Huckabee was there feigning outrage over liberals trying to change the outcome.

How clueless can they be?

Seeing it helped me understand where some posters here come up with the things they post.
We'll find out soon enough. When the EC votes, if the noise increases then drops then we have an indication. If it doesn't well then we have an indication.

It's only a week to wait.
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Old 12-13-2016, 04:58 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Even if true, what did the Russians do to us that we haven't done to so many others?
That said They didn't write the emails.
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Old 12-13-2016, 05:52 AM
 
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The leftists are in some instances becoming hysterical. A number of them appear to be on the verge of literally loosing their minds.

The wildest and wackiest political drama ever seen on television does not have all of the bizarre and frantic plot twists in it that we have seen since election night five weeks ago. If someone submitted what has actually happened since then as a script for a TV drama series, it would be rejected as being too ridiculous.

So now they are down to a conspiracy theory trying to blame Hillary's loss on the Russians. This really has descended into the realm of the pathetic.
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Old 12-13-2016, 05:57 AM
 
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The one thing that I have yet to see anyone from the left answer is this:

While any deliberate attempts on the part of Russia to hack U.S. networks is wrong, and should be investigated, so that it can be mitigated, how do Clinton supporters excuse the content of the emails? It's one thing to assail how the emails were obtained and released, but that does not excuse the blatant wrongdoing proven by those same emails. The DNC got caught red handed meddling with the primary process. The media (CNN, Politico, etc.) got caught red handed directly colluding with the DNC candidate, going so far as to provide Clinton debate questions ahead of time, and to vet stories with her campaign prior to publication. Russia (or whomever is behind the leaked emails) didn't make Clinton, or her campaign do any of those things.
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Old 12-13-2016, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Yes! It took down two Democratic chairmen. It revealed how much the media is in bed with the DNC and how the media just shrugged it all off as business as usual. The emails revealed what we've always suspected about the media and the Democrats.


Either way, it didn't materially affect the election. Clinton was still a terrible candidate.
I think you have some contradicting statements.
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Old 12-13-2016, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Well you think Wrong! If it exposes corruption and underhanded dealings, it does not matter who exposes it to the American People. Whoever exposed the information made us more informed, and righted what would have been a Gross Injustice to our Values and the Constitution. It exposed an intentional attempted "FIX" of our Fair election system by the Corrupt DNC. Thats what the Snake Oil folks are really mad about. The Roaches had the lights turned on and we saw them.
Many people didn't want the NSA spying on citizens but it's alright for a foreign power to spy on our political parties, that's some interesting logic. How far do you go with that, if a foreign power spies on private citizens and criminal activity turns up then it's a wash?


Aside from that maybe you didn't notice this part but it was only one party they went after, the republicans must have been clean.
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Old 12-13-2016, 06:15 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Here's where we are on this as of today.
Trump won and nothing in any investigation will change that because NOTHING happened to the actual voting. We won't even address that Hillary was a horrible candidate and what that had to do with the loss as that has nothing to do with Russia and hacking (except Hillary's frequent hacking *cough cough* )

Even if Russia is behind the hacks, nothing was released that wasn't TRUE, those emails were released as written so those who are screaming about Russia hacking must just be angry that what y'all were doing came to the attention of those you were doing it to. Y'all are so beside yourself that the general public finally got to see behind the curtain and read in black and white how devious and conniving Hillary and the Democrat party is. The Democrats got CAUGHT and are apoplectic about it. Just to be clear, I'm not saying the Republicans aren't (devious,conniving), that's just not the current conversation.

Given all of that there is NOTHING that happened (other than truth being revealed) that would require Trump being denied his win.
Now IF it's found that Russia was behind the email hacks could that be considered an act of war? If so what would all like to do about it, I mean it's an ACT OF WAR after all. Would y'all declare cyber or hot war on Russia?
C'mon, y'all, step on up and stand behind your conclusions and make a big decision for once in your lives, then LIVE with the consequences.
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Old 12-13-2016, 06:43 AM
 
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That would be "Cozy Bear" and "Fancy Bear" the names used by the fronts of The Russian Secret Intelligence and the FSB, who did the hacking. Ironically, they used a computer with Russian-language settings by a user named "Feliks Dzerzhinsky." Dzerzhinsky was the founder of the Cheka, the Soviet secret police—a figure whose mythic renown was signaled by a fifteen-ton bronze statue that once stood in front of KGB headquarters.
But perhaps that's too much info.

Folks we've been had and Trump's propaganda cadres are out in the internet spreading his fertilizer.
You not the least of them, Boris.

Joke's on the US citizens but I promise you, this whole nasty crypto coup will come out shortly.

Meanwhile, Trump will name Tillerson secretary of state tomorrow, Tuesday, completing the coup..
ummmm....

If I gave you an article from esquire to read will you read it then respond on what you think? I don't care so much about the politics so promise not to jump down your throat about personal opinions. I'm attracted by what you said regarding hacking.


Expert Says 'We Caught Russian Hackers In The Act'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfvJTvrCo1U

Are people afraid that Trump needed the emails to win? Couldn't Trump have won without the emails being revealed? If Trump needed the emails revealed to win how is that not responsible for his victory. Then Trump is indebted to the hackers more than to his supporters. Anyway I'm curious what you think and why is it a coup.

the article is from Esquire

How Russia Pulled Off the Biggest Election Hack in U.S. History
Russia Hackers to Blame for Wikileaks Emails - Proof Vladmir Putin Was Behind the Clinton Email Hack

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A second mistake had to do with the computer that had been used to control the hacking operation. Researchers found that the malicious software, or malware, used to break into the DNC was controlled by a machine that had been involved in a 2015 hack of the German parliament. German intelligence later traced the Bundestag breach to the Russian GRU, aka Fancy Bear.
I don't understand why you can't hope for the best with Trump, support him while being certain the hacks came from Russia. Young people can accept both... Russian Hackers and accept Trump as Our President. I'm only asking your opinion because of you mentioning Feliks Dzerzhinsky.

I avoid ideologues and find them creepy on both sides.
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