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Originally Posted by gwynedd1
Oh my I did not realize it was PROVEN. I mean to say something is proven without providing a shred of the material supporting the claim is not something I take seriously. However PROVEN changes this entirely. I hope it does not turn out out to be PROVEN. I think I would have passed out if it were pink, uppercase , underlined and italicized : PROVEN . Surely that calls for impeachment.
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Your comment is just petulant in its self-centeredness...
Do you actually expect that the proof of Russian hackers with government backing is going to be printed in the papers, advertised on the Internet like Pizza Gate was "proven news"???
It is irrational to expect that YOUR standard of proof--whatever that is--has to be met and YOU satisfied for there to be proof of this evil doing...
My husband read an article this summer before the election (and there have been other's since) where a cyber security expert for a private company the DNC hired after it noticed unusual activity in its IT setup...
DNC called in this cyber company who set up trap ware on the servers and SAW the hackers at work----a traced them back to a company they were familiar with as Russian based/authorized hacking operation....
They caught them in the act of hacking the DNC---
It happened....
The CIA, the FBI (finally), and 13 other security agencies recognize and admit that several groups with ties to the Russian gov't hacked into OUR political databases...
And the info went via the Russian hackers to WikiLeaks/Assange who facilitated the propaganda missives that Putin wanted to use to help turn the voters against Clinton--whom he hates...
Mitch McConnell, other Congressional security dept heads were shown some of this info this summer before the election MCCONNELL--old turkey neck himself---told Obama not to make a big deal about this hacking before the election because it would POLITICIZE the info---what he really meant was it would cost Trump any chance of winning...and Obama didn't do it....which was a freaking mistake IMO--because Trump and his surrogates certainly had no problem using info PROVIDED by the Russians via WikiLeaks (and in at least one instance definitively compromised by the Russians prior to going public)
So plenty of people knew about it--plenty of people in Congress, (it made Harry Reid sick when he saw it), in the security services--likely even Flynn knew about it because he has worked for Putin's Ukraine buddy and Paul Manafort--whether they told Dumpty Trump who knows---probably not because of who he might blab to on Twitter...
Now personally as an American I would think my chances of getting a President who would protect and serve my country's needs best would be served by the person the Russians HATE vs someone they view as a patsy under their financial thumb who is going to be manipulated by Putin to get what benefits Russia vs the US...
So Putin's choice won the election--
Putin is happy---
Do you know how scared that should make any American who really loves this country and the democratic process????
Putin is getting what he wants for Christmas--a patsy for president, Brexit in UK, destabilized NATO, and power in the Middle East....
If you think your world is better with Putin in a more powerful position, you are totally clueless...
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This fool is a disaster and he isn't even in the WH yet, and if he attempts to roll back the actions BO has taken he will look just like what HC called him - A Puppet!
