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Old 12-15-2016, 07:15 AM
 
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Frist of all Ivanka (if this is even true) would not be the first daughter to assume the role. in fact she wouldn't even be the 10th.

 
Old 12-15-2016, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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I've never seen liberals so approving of 's-l-u-t shaming', one of their usually-favorite pet causes, as they are when it comes to Melania Trump. It's shameful.

He's not even in office yet and yet these wild accusations are flying all around about her status. All I've seen so far is the mother of a young child who reportedly has some developmental disabilities taking a slow and deliberate transition into a new environment. It doesn't matter how Michelle, Laura, Hillary, or Nancy did it. The FLOTUS isn't bound under the same protocols as their spouse.
 
Old 12-15-2016, 07:21 AM
 
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WOW! If this isn't grasping at straws to complain about Trump. The nation must finally be on the right track.
 
Old 12-15-2016, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Frist of all Ivanka (if this is even true) would not be the first daughter to assume the role. in fact she wouldn't even be the 10th.
would she be the first to be in complete control of a billion dollar private business while simultaneously having direct access to confidential meetings in the Oval Office posing a conflict of interest?
 
Old 12-15-2016, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I am not a Trump fan and have absolutely no problem with this. I think its great that we are finally at a point first families can assume their chosen roles instead of trying to fit a preconstructed model. I also would not be opposed to a first family simply hiring a supercharged social secretary to play the first lady role.


My one gripe with Trumps family is that he and the kids need to maintain a clearer separation in terms of Trump the business/Trump family/Trump administration. The Clinton Foundation bit Hillary in the ass and if he's not careful his business dealings could do the same for him.
Hillary disclosed the Clinton Foundation and the intent to continue to fundraise while SoS, during confirmation hearings, before being confirmed. All but one Senator confirmed her appointment.

The Form 990 and tax returns of the Clinton Foundation are public information. The Clintons have disclosed 30+ years of personal tax returns. The Clinton Foundation was not an issue until she announced her intent to run.

Most people do not understand charitable giving structures.

Most foundations are indirect charitable contributers, meaning they grant funds to other charitable orgs. An indirect foundation is unlikely to have a payroll. The Clinton Foundation is a direct charitable org whereby funds are used to directly benefit a charitable cause. As such, it had a payroll. Bill, Hillary and Chelsea were not employees of their foundation.

The Clintons personal wealth was earned primarily by Bill's speaker fees and investment income. He like most ex officials are paid very well on the speaker's circuit.

She/ they were idiots for continuing to solicit donations while she was SoS and in doing so created a perception of Pay for Play. Again, it was not an issue until she ran for POTUS. It is nearly impossible to prove or disprove Pay for Play.

The Trump adult children and spouse of one of those children sitting in on meetings and vetting cabinet members is inappropriate, especially given the adult children will be taking over Trump Org, more than 500 businesses in about 2 dozen countries.

There has been no shortage of fake news about Valerie Jarret, a family friend and advisor to Obama. That she was born to US citizens in Iran ( pre revolution) and lived there briefly as a young child in Iran while her father operated a children's hospital was more than enough for fake news to label her a no good Muslim.

All three adult children and spouse of one child sitting in on a meeting with the Titans of technology makes zero sense.

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Old 12-15-2016, 07:28 AM
 
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..grasping at straws to complain about Trump...
Discussion is not about Donald Trump. At all. Unless you consider him the first lady.
 
Old 12-15-2016, 07:29 AM
 
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It's not right that the first lady doesn't get a salary, yet has many expected responsibilities.It's about time the first lady refuse to work for free. A future first lady should stand up for women and demand a wage as first lady, and set the trend for future first ladies to get a salary. Not so much because they need the money, but because it's not right for the first lady to have to work for free.

However, since Melania isn't in DC and won't be doing many of the duties, then she really cannot argue for a salary right now. So maybe the timing isn't right at the moment.

IMO, it's a job with duties and responsibilities and it should be a paid position and this should have been rectified decades ago. Same salary whether it's first man or first lady.
No, the First Lady should not get a salary, because she doesn't have official duties other than being a wife to the President. It's totally the FL's choice about what to do and when to do it. Jobs that pay don't work that way.

Melania's duties are not much different than being the wife of a mogul. Attend events as the well dressed and bejewelled wife of mogul, smile, stay in shape, tend to the kids, make sure Trump gets the meals he wants and cooked the way he wants, don't interfere or express opinions about anything except maybe unimportant pet projects, get new expensive clothes regularly (tax writeoff), etc. The typical wifely stuff of a multi-billionaire.
 
Old 12-15-2016, 07:34 AM
 
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Frist of all Ivanka (if this is even true) would not be the first daughter to assume the role. in fact she wouldn't even be the 10th.
Can you name the 10 historical instances whereby an adult child of a president assumed responsibility for duties historically attributed to FLOTUS.
 
Old 12-15-2016, 07:35 AM
 
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would she be the first to be in complete control of a billion dollar private business while simultaneously having direct access to confidential meetings in the Oval Office posing a conflict of interest?



You know this for a fact? You have some news to report that isn't being reported by any news outlet?


please by all means, provide us the details of how Ivanka is both in control of the Trump organization and also taking up office in the White house.
 
Old 12-15-2016, 07:36 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Ivanka will be doing duties that are typically done by the first lady, while Melania hides in NY. Melania will be first lady in name only because Ivanka will be the stand-in most of the time. There will be a some occasions when Melania appears as first lady, but mostly it will be Ivanka.
And? I have a lot of issues with Donald Trump being president but this, while not the standard choice, is definitely not worth a second glance. Surely we have grown past the notion that women are obligated to be unpaid employees as part of their husband's job. If Trump's wife wanted to volunteer to do it great, if not it's nice he found someone willing to fill that role. Frankly, of all the things we were selecting this election, Ivanka as First Lady was the only thing I would have felt positive about if I knew that was an option.
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