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Old 12-17-2016, 07:10 PM
 
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North Carolina is too strongly gerrymandered to come into play in 2018. However in 2020 when Dems run a stronger Presdiential candidate and the state has seen 4 more years of transplants, older residents passing and demographic/residential shifts around the cities it could be a different matter.


The other question might be- did Trump voters show up only for Trump. We saw with Obama that folks definitely stayed home in both mid-terms and the 2016 race. If Trump has similar attrition among voters who came out for him but typically do not it could make 2018 interesting in NC. The one oddity will be that NC will not have any top of ticket races since their state office holders are elected in Presidential years and the Senate seats were up in 14 and 16.


So it looks like 2020 is the year to see what goes down in the state. And that will impact who helps draw the redistricted maps for 2022-2030 since it is all but guaranteed at least on more US House seat.
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Old 12-17-2016, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Both sides have done it for years if they feel a law that is being challenged doesn't meet Constitutional requirements. George H.W Bush's admin refused to defend a challenge to a FCC law they felt violated the Constitution. The state can pass a law, the AG has the right not to defend it if they feel it doesn't pass Constitutional grounds.
You won't see me condone it when a Republican does it. And I'm certainly not calling for granting POTUS or the US Attorney General more power than they have already (I'm for lessening some of their powers, actually).
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Old 12-17-2016, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Part of the problem here in NC is the gerrymandering done by this Republican-led state legislature making it almost impossible to have a fair election.

Federal court orders North Carolina to redraw districts, hold elections in fall of 2017 | abc11.com
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Old 12-17-2016, 07:31 PM
 
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I'm sure some people are angry...some are happy. The feelings I get from reading things like this is simply sadness. This is what our political system has become. We aren't a democracy anymore. Everyone is just playing games so that they can control the outcome as opposed to working with the other side and coming to an agreement. That goes for both sides and in this case, it's the Republicans rewriting the rules in the middle of the game to ensure they still hold he power when a vote doesn't go their way. Just sad. Peaceful transition of power is the new political phrase lately and this was anything but that. Shame on North Carolina and Republicans.
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Old 12-18-2016, 06:14 AM
 
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Try to be just a little honest, this was a lame duck governor signing bills to restrict the next governor in December. Do you have anything to compare to this other than your very common example.


An opposing party legislature going against a governor, wow that is historic. Never heard of that before. LOL
"Try to be just a little honest,""An opposing party legislature going against a governor, wow that is historic. Never heard of that before."

Which is it?
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Old 12-18-2016, 06:17 AM
 
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Part of the problem here in NC is the gerrymandering done by this Republican-led state legislature making it almost impossible to have a fair election.

Federal court orders North Carolina to redraw districts, hold elections in fall of 2017 | abc11.com
So, you are claiming that when the dems held control for 1000 years they didn't gerrymander the districts?

Maybe the repubs are just correcting the gerrymandering the dems did all those years.
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Old 12-18-2016, 06:57 AM
 
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"Ignorance is bliss"

I lived in MD most of my life and it is totally controlled by dems.

When RINO repub is elected Governor the state legislate does everything in its power to stop the repub Governor from doing ANYTHING.

Example: Erilch, (R) pushed for gambling to be allowed in the state.

The dem controlled state legislator block every attempt he tried.

As soon a dem was elected one of the first things he did was to BACK gambling and the state legislator all of a sudden were OK with gambling.

If you think in NC, or any other state, when they were totally controlled by 1 party, listen to the other party, you are sadly mistaken.

Maybe it was just you? Hogan is pretty well like in Maryland.
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Old 12-18-2016, 08:03 AM
 
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Try to be just a little honest, this was a lame duck governor signing bills to restrict the next governor in December. Do you have anything to compare to this other than your very common example.


An opposing party legislature going against a governor, wow that is historic. Never heard of that before. LOL
conservatives thirst for political power. Smh. This is what the Conservative party is today. If they don't win they don't allow anyone else to govern.
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Old 12-18-2016, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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"Try to be just a little honest,""An opposing party legislature going against a governor, wow that is historic. Never heard of that before."

Which is it?
That doesn't make any sense.


I will wait while you dig out an example of an outgoing governor signing laws to restrict the powers of a new governor.
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Old 12-18-2016, 08:13 AM
 
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Republicans have a big problem when they lose power. Look how they treated Obama for almost 8 years. Insinuating he wasn't a citizen and obstructing any thing he wanted to do..
So who did they elect? A five year old sociopath who tweets at all hours of the night.
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