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Old 12-21-2016, 04:33 PM
 
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Because I've already posted what Fascist Italy looked like in the 1930s. It's nothing like what Trump talks about or proposes in his speeches. I had relatives that lived through it. He looks that way to people that make assumptions and people that just want to paint Trump as something he is not.
Maybe this link will shed some light on what Fascist Italy was like, even just a tiny bit. If you see anything comparable to what Trump talks about, please let me know.
Fascism is not about speeches and patriatism, it's about actions and how a country is ruled by a dictator. My Grandfather refused to join the Fascist party. As a result, he could not get a job working in any factory because it was all controlled by the government. When he asked a Fascist member of the government controlled employment agency how he was going to feed his family, he was told to commit suicide. The government might feel sorry for his wife and children that way and provide them with some food.

Contrast this with my Grandmother's sister who married someone in the Fascist Party. They had a nice house, plenty of food and lived well because the government made sure they were taken care of.
Life in Fascist Italy - History Learning Site
Think you missed the point:
1) Nobody can tell how Trump's presidency will look like. Even he has no idea.
2) The big difference between Italy in 1930s and today is that a dictatorship will start a civil war. They will have to win a war. Before 1930s nobody lived like we do today. As such, there wasn't much opposition to a dictator in Italy, Germany, Russia, Romania, etc.
3) Before Mussolini seized power, he didn't talk about the down side of dictatorship. He only spoke about the "pluses". The problems you mention (and many others) were revealed later in Italy, Germany and other countries, but there wasn't much people could do, since at that stage, every opposition group was neutralized or infiltrated.
4) Benito (and his many supporters) though its possible to revive the Roman empire. The past was glorious and in contrast the present, very gloomy. He really believed that he can be a reincarnation of Julius Cesar or Augustus.
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Old 12-21-2016, 04:41 PM
 
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The problem with your post is that this country has a Constitution and a Supreme Court and a division of powers between 3 branches of government. The President is very limited to what he/she can do. Obama learned this by having his executive orders ruled unconstitutional.
The President himself is limited to two terms in office. He cannot become a dictator by definition unless our entire system of government stops to exist in which case we would not be a country anymore.
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Old 12-21-2016, 07:17 PM
 
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The problem with your post is that this country has a Constitution and a Supreme Court and a division of powers between 3 branches of government. The President is very limited to what he/she can do. Obama learned this by having his executive orders ruled unconstitutional.
The President himself is limited to two terms in office. He cannot become a dictator by definition unless our entire system of government stops to exist in which case we would not be a country anymore.
Oh it will be such sweet poetic justice when the Ninth Circuit jerks Trump back to reality with the executive actions he's planning... actions tied up for years in litigation and motions and injunctions and appeals.... until poof! Time for the next president.
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Old 12-21-2016, 07:34 PM
 
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Oh it will be such sweet poetic justice when the Ninth Circuit jerks Trump back to reality with the executive actions he's planning... actions tied up for years in litigation and motions and injunctions and appeals.... until poof! Time for the next president.
And I have no problem with that. If the courts shut him down then so be it just like they shut down Obama. That's how it's suppose to work. At least you seem to know there is a system in place that prevents any President from becoming a dictator. It's weird others don't seem to know that.
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Old 12-21-2016, 07:54 PM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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And I have no problem with that. If the courts shut him down then so be it just like they shut down Obama. That's how it's suppose to work. At least you seem to know there is a system in place that prevents any President from becoming a dictator. It's weird others don't seem to know that.
It's scary. It's like a lot of people actually want the US to turn into a fascist country if it's going to forward what they think their interests are.
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Old 12-21-2016, 07:59 PM
 
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

Seems much more like the neo progs than Trump
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Old 12-21-2016, 08:03 PM
 
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Fascism is NOT socialism, it is the opposite of socialism. Socialism=Government runs corporations
Fascism=Corporations run government
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The problem with you on the right is you will twist any thing you don't like that you can to make it look like it's from the left. You are denying reality
Stop wringing your hands so much. You are going to hurt yourself. You lefties are a riot. I am literally rolling on the floor and laughing at you guys
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Old 12-21-2016, 08:05 PM
 
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The Corporations were running things under Obama. What do you think the Establishment is... Bwahahahahahaha! And it is Socialist, as there has to be loss of liberties and government control, for it to even get a grasp on the economy. What do you think the establishment globalist goal is? They work for the Corporations, or we would not be in the mess we are, with a lopsided trade deal and open borders.
Its because they still think their party is about free love and kum ba yah

They don't realize that their party sold them out long ago
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Old 12-21-2016, 08:08 PM
 
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

Seems much more like the neo progs than Trump
What I find scary is that so many people here have no idea how our government works and was very wisely designed by our Founding Fathers for the very reason that no one would be able to be a king or dictator.
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Old 12-21-2016, 08:48 PM
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Hell-raising? Yeah, thats how the German Press characterized Hitler in the 1920's.
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Remembering that Hitler came to power in 1933, you haven't a thing to worry about until 2029.
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You are really embarrassing yourself.
wow, just wow ...

Adolf Hitler 1918 to 1924
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