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Old 12-21-2016, 11:30 AM
 
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thanks for providing any information to back up your point?

good try bud

 
Old 12-21-2016, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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He won without the help of mainstream media , current administration or obscene amounts of special interest money also .

Imagine how much Trump would of won the popular vote by if he had all those advantages that Clinton had !
 
Old 12-21-2016, 12:39 PM
 
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Until President-elect Trump is sworn in, President Obama IS the President. Perhaps you should take your own suggestion.




Yes, he is still President.


A bad, failed, irresponsible President, as illustrated in the OP, that took us in wrong directions and thought his will superseded the Constitution (the Court slapped him down several times on this).
 
Old 12-21-2016, 12:55 PM
 
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I know you Trumplings are all nervous about your boy's very fragile victory.

You'd like everyone to just forget about the election and move on.

And everyone would, except that he "won" by negative 2.8 million votes.

"It's a rigged system!"

It'll be okay Gringo. Would you like a warm glass of milk and a puppy to pet?
 
Old 12-21-2016, 01:00 PM
 
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He won without the help of mainstream media , current administration or obscene amounts of special interest money also .

Imagine how much Trump would of won the popular vote by if he had all those advantages that Clinton had !
 
Old 12-21-2016, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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He has had 8 years, and flat out blew it.

1) He told everyone that he was going to fundamentally change America. His legacy is:

-A health care bill modest is scope, disastrous in execution, and fleeting in longevity, since it is about to be repealled.

-The total ceding of the world to Islmacists, Russia and China. (Wow, 4000,000 dead in Syria! good job "leading from behind" or whatever!).

-The over regulation of Dodd-Frank, which will also probably be repealled or modified.

-The strengthening of unilateral action through executive orders, which is only going to help Trump now (we warned him too!).


2) He wove the narrative of a new, inassailable Democratic coalition based on changing demographics, and his legacy is:

- His succesor could not grab the brass ring and was defeated by (another) political novice.
- The Senate remains Republican and will do so for at least another four years
-The House Remains Republican and will probably be so for at least another 6-8 years
- There will not be a liberal Supreme Court in my lifetime
- 66 of 99 State legislatures are Repubican
- 33 of 50 governorships are Republican.


3) He bragged about the ecomony, but his legacy of enemic growth and bogus employment numbers has caused:

-The rise of the populist right in Donald Trump
- The rise of the Socialist left in Bernie Sanders


Why doesn't he just shut up? We don't need to hear him cry about everyone and everything else when he has the lion's share of the blame. If he's mad about Russia, then he whould have listened when Mitt Romney told him they were a threat. If he's mad about news agencies, then he should have done something to curtail the blatant cheerleading that culminated in Donna Brazil trying to rig a debate for Hillary.

Obama blew it, and no longer has the right to ***** about ANYTHING.

Discuss.
This is America. We have the right, if not the duty, to express political views any time, anywhere. That includes Obama.
 
Old 12-21-2016, 01:10 PM
 
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the thing is, it wasn't a fragile victory.

the electoral college has been in place for over 200 years. hillary and trump knew what it would take to win OUR country's system. based off of the actual system, trump won fairly convincingly.

sure it was fragile if you compare it on a scale that has nothing to do with the system put it place. trump would've campaigned in five major cities and left everyone else alone if the popular vote was the system. Instead he actually went out and campaigned in places he knew would help him win OUR country's system

too hard for y'all to understand?

the popular vote has nothing to do with a "rigged system" because it is not any part of that system

Donald Trump may have won the election, but he lost the American people. Trump comes to office with no mandate. Donald Trump won the presidency by the 3rd worst margin in American history. Let that sink in a moment.
Trump has the 3rd worst margin of victory in American history - AMERICAblog News


Final Popular Vote Total Shows Hillary Clinton Won Almost 3 Million More Ballots Than Donald Trump
It’s by far the largest margin of victory in the popular vote for a candidate who did not win the election.

Final Popular Vote Total Shows Hillary Clinton Won Almost 3 Million More Ballots Than Donald Trump | The Huffington Post
 
Old 12-21-2016, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Texas
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It'll be okay Gringo.
I see a very entertaining four years ahead. Trump was amusing during the campaign. He'll be even better in the White House.
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Would you like a warm glass of milk and a puppy to pet?
pull-EEZ!

No wimpy right wing beverages for me.

I'll take a double Cragganmore and my black cat just loves to curl up on my lap in the evenings.

 
Old 12-21-2016, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Texas
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thanks for providing any information to back up your point?

good try bud
See post #162.

Warning: it includes numbers.

 
Old 12-21-2016, 03:29 PM
 
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See post #162.

Warning: it includes numbers.

oh you mean your post that i quoted earlier? yea, i think i saw that one...

a "number" that I've said was meaningless, then you had no response except?

does somebody want to tell this guy?
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