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Old 12-25-2016, 10:11 AM
 
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Exactly.

Don't know why everyone is in such a flutter about this. Trump hasn't even taken the oath to protect the Constitution and already folks are in a flutter about how awful, just awful people are treating him.

We've seen Republicans like Romney and Cruz suck up to Trump when they know he's a liar, a con man, a fraud.

Don't expect the rest of us to fall in line.

Plus, there are more of us.
Its called having class, losing gracefully and moving on. Something many on the left just can't do.
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Old 12-25-2016, 10:14 AM
 
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Now that the recount and the Russian plots didn't work, they want to sow discord among Trump supporters by making him look like he lied. Everyday there is a thread here about some pledge that Trump will not keep. FAKE NEWS! The latest is that he is not going to "drain the swamp." Let me tell you something. You tried to dispirit Trump supporters and sow discord during the election and it didn't work. It won't work now either.
The only thing he's "backed away from" is the use of that particular language (according to Newt Gingrich). He hasn't backed away from what it represents.
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Old 12-25-2016, 10:16 AM
 
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Its called having class, losing gracefully and moving on. Something many on the left just can't do.
We will soon have a Russian stooge as president.

There really is no "moving on" from that.
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Old 12-25-2016, 10:35 AM
 
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We will soon have a Russian stooge as president.

There really is no "moving on" from that.
See that is exactly my point. If you don't like Trump on policy or even personality I can respect that. Just making up things because of sour grapes is really desperate. Taking unnamed sources as fact is just plain ignorant.

Glenn Greenwald of The Intercept, if you don't know who he is you should. He published most of Snowden's NSA documents. He is a journalist and on the left. His take is very interesting:

Glenn Greenwald: Democrats Need to Stop Calling Everybody a Vladimir Putin Stoog

Glenn Greenwald: What Evidence Is There By Intel Agencies That Show Russia Is Behind Leaks? There Is None | Video | RealClearPolitics
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Old 12-25-2016, 11:20 AM
 
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Glenn Greenwald of The Intercept, if you don't know who he is you should. He published most of Snowden's NSA documents. He is a journalist and on the left. His take is very interesting:

Glenn Greenwald: Democrats Need to Stop Calling Everybody a Vladimir Putin Stoog

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Not calling everybody a Russian stooge, just Trump.

When Trump selects a Secretary of State with significant financial involvement with Russian oil endeavors...

When the CIA/FBI/etc. all say the Kremlin interfered in our elections to get Trump elected...

When Trump carries on about what a great guy Putin is and Putin responds in kind...

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
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Old 12-25-2016, 11:52 AM
 
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It is what we have now. I've been complaining about it mostly alone for years.

Forbes Welcome

Good Article


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quantitative easing as a policy works purely through an "asset price channel" enriching the few who own stocks or other financial products (and not the 96% of Americans who receive the majority of their income through labor).
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While the overall “gap” in wealth between rich and poor has risen, during this period, the wealth belonging to the poor has fallen independent of how much wealth is now concentrated in the top deciles. In other words, poverty itself has risen as low and middle-class incomes have stagnated, which have contributed to expanding inequality, not simply the rich getting richer.
I expect this to only get worse under Trump since there are no representatives in DC for the middle and lower class. The Billionaires will look after the top wealthy who they have more in common with and represent.


I said it before but the federal government represented people in this country more in the 50's to the 70's when you had a large variety of people from all places running things. The average American was a lot more wealthy back then. Not just the wealthy like we have now which has been a disaster for the majority.
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Old 12-25-2016, 12:46 PM
 
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Its called having class, losing gracefully and moving on. Something many on the left just can't do.
Class? What would the Trump faithful know about class?

"Lock her up," is chanted regularly at their rallies. Lock her her up for what? She has been investigated endless for three decades and neither the FBI or the Republicans (even they admit the Benghazi hearings were partisan political theater) can find a single thing to charge her with.

Threatening to lock up one's opponent is the stuff of banana republics not democracies and definitely not a sign of class.

I'm waiting for the inauguration where it appears the headliner will be Ted Nugent, as he's the only one willing to perform. Now there's a class act for you.
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Old 12-25-2016, 01:02 PM
 
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The CIA and the FBI are lying about Russian hacking
Neither of these agencies have made that claim. The only place feeding this is Obama and Clinton..
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Old 12-25-2016, 01:08 PM
 
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Originally Posted by jackwinkelman View Post
Glenn Greenwald of The Intercept, if you don't know who he is you should. He published most of Snowden's NSA documents. He is a journalist and on the left. His take is very interesting:

Glenn Greenwald: Democrats Need to Stop Calling Everybody a Vladimir Putin Stoog

/QUOTE]

Not calling everybody a Russian stooge, just Trump.

When Trump selects a Secretary of State with significant financial involvement with Russian oil endeavors...

When the CIA/FBI/etc. all say the Kremlin interfered in our elections to get Trump elected...

When Trump carries on about what a great guy Putin is and Putin responds in kind...

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
The Russians hacked the DNC and Podesta. That is clear. The CIA says that. The CIA, FBI etc have not publicly said the Russians give Wikileaks the emails. Only unnamed anonymous sources telling the Washington Post. Just rumors. Wikileaks says they got the emails from a Democrat whistle blower. Assange has been spot on for 10 years with his facts. I will believe Assange and Greewald over so called government sources until proven otherwise. We went to war in Iraq over fake CIA info.

And the Russians started hacking early in 2016, before Trump was the nominee. They were helping Trump win the presidency when he was not even the GOP nominee and a long shot?

Your story does not fit the facts.

But keep dreaming.
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Old 12-25-2016, 01:25 PM
 
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Class? What would the Trump faithful know about class?

"Lock her up," is chanted regularly at their rallies. Lock her her up for what? She has been investigated endless for three decades and neither the FBI or the Republicans (even they admit the Benghazi hearings were partisan political theater) can find a single thing to charge her with.

Threatening to lock up one's opponent is the stuff of banana republics not democracies and definitely not a sign of class.

I'm waiting for the inauguration where it appears the headliner will be Ted Nugent, as he's the only one willing to perform. Now there's a class act for you.
Both sides said immature things. Deplorable things. Regrettable things.

The election is over. Be the bigger person, the better person and let it go.
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