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Old 12-27-2016, 11:04 AM
 
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Trump rightfully calls them Radical Islamic Terrorists. obama calls them brothers in arms.
obama and his miserable wife hates America, and won't call terrorists what they are because he is, and always has been, on their side.
America was lucky to have survived his stay in the WH.
Grumpy..., if you believe what you write in this comment, I think you just might believe anything, yet another characteristic of a terrorist. My only hope is that you are not prone toward violence to act upon your disturbing beliefs...
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Old 12-27-2016, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Is simple it has been explained a million times, if you don't understand is because you don't want to. Blaming the religion for terrorism reinforces the terrorists rethoric it gives them a recruiting tool and more importantly you go from fighting a group of terrorists to fighting against a whole religion. What exactly is it that you gain by doing so? What's the upside of using Islamic terrorist calling a spade a spade has very little inherent benefit.
The religion IS the cause of the terrorists.
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Old 12-27-2016, 11:17 PM
 
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Again the comparison of ISIS and radical Islamic terrorism with the circumstances of WWII.
These Radical Islamic Terrorists have MAJOR $$$$ funding. To do BIG THINGS...they are supported by those who are good with the cause, but won't put themselves in harms way. They'll leave the nut jobs to blow themselves up (along with many innocents) in the name of Allah, but they'll supply the money & the way for these morons to do their dirty work. In the name of their RELIGION which is....?

Yet folks like you try to compare them to homegrown morons.

Maybe if one of the wussy EU countries bordering/in the vicinity of Germany had called Hitler & his NAZI terrorists out for what they were & taken a stand against it all? The holocaust may never have happened.

Call them what they are, and what they are, are RADICAL ISLAMIC NUT JOBS who want everyone to live like it's 200 BC.

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Again in a word, ignorance.
Yes, your posts are full of it.
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Old 12-28-2016, 12:06 AM
 
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In 2014 in Washington D.C., a group of 120 Muslim scholars from around the world joined an open letter to the “fighters and followers” of the Islamic State, denouncing them as un-Islamic by using the most Islamic of terms.
Muslim "scholars" are NOT Imams.

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Again, calling a boogeyman a boogeyman does not make him go away.
You are correct.

Calling a rapist a rapist does not make him go away.

Calling an abuser an abuser does not make him go away.

You have to first acknowledge what it is and then TAKE ACTION against it...Obama couldn't make it past the first step.



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Obama did not hesitate to order the raid that killed Bin Laden. Also, we have had no 9/11 style attack under Obama's watch.
What a champ!

Obama worked so hard to get Bin Laden (he didn't, it was already in play to find the bastard).

Clinton ignored Bin Laden. Had Osama's head handed to him on a silver platter and Bill passed.

If you think, for one second, that the 9/11 RADICAL ISLAMIC terrorists managed to get it all together under Bush's watch? In 8 months? You probably needed play-doh and a coloring book to deal with the recent election results.

And 9/11? It all managed to get planned and funded under Clinton's watch. While he was too busy playing his sax for Hollyweird. And sticking cigars where they were never meant to be.

What other terrorist attacks happened while Bush was in office that didn't happen under Clinton's or Obama's?
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Old 12-28-2016, 08:41 AM
 
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These Radical Islamic Terrorists have MAJOR $$$$ funding. To do BIG THINGS...they are supported by those who are good with the cause, but won't put themselves in harms way. They'll leave the nut jobs to blow themselves up (along with many innocents) in the name of Allah, but they'll supply the money & the way for these morons to do their dirty work. In the name of their RELIGION which is....?

Yet folks like you try to compare them to homegrown morons.

Maybe if one of the wussy EU countries bordering/in the vicinity of Germany had called Hitler & his NAZI terrorists out for what they were & taken a stand against it all? The holocaust may never have happened.

Call them what they are, and what they are, are RADICAL ISLAMIC NUT JOBS who want everyone to live like it's 200 BC.

Yes, your posts are full of it.
Okay Informed One, let's look at this from another angle...

Say you are exactly right to direct our anger toward the religion of Islam rather than more specifically those who want to perform acts of terrorism in the name of their religion, Muslims rather than radical Islamic terrorists. Okay. Now what?

Who is our target now different than as Obama has been directing all along, different from what how other Western countries are dealing with this serious problem?

Now that we use your rhetoric just as you think is so insightful and strategically important, what are you suggesting we do about all you go on about in your comment that is different than current strategy? Frankly, I don't really care what you or we call the terrorists. Doesn't really make a difference other than to also sweep innocent people into the enemy camp which it seems you and so many others want to do. Just how many millions of people do you want to see targeted and killed?

Specifics please, though I know that might be hard for you, while meanwhile I won't say what I think your comments are full of...

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Old 12-28-2016, 08:55 AM
 
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Calling a rapist a rapist does not make him go away.

Calling an abuser an abuser does not make him go away.

You have to first acknowledge what it is and then TAKE ACTION against it...Obama couldn't make it past the first step.
Not a question of what it is Sherlock! It's a question of WHO they are!

You go after the rapist, not everyone from where the rapist might be from.

You go after the abuser, not everyone who shares the same faith as the abuser!

Or please, please tell us something we don't know. Something that makes more a difference than just wasting time insisting on whatever rhetoric makes you feel like you know something even Obama doesn't. Please.
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Old 12-28-2016, 09:01 AM
 
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Obama couldn't make it past the first step.

What a champ!

Obama worked so hard to get Bin Laden (he didn't, it was already in play to find the bastard).

Clinton ignored Bin Laden. Had Osama's head handed to him on a silver platter and Bill passed.

If you think, for one second, that the 9/11 RADICAL ISLAMIC terrorists managed to get it all together under Bush's watch? In 8 months? You probably needed play-doh and a coloring book to deal with the recent election results.

And 9/11? It all managed to get planned and funded under Clinton's watch. While he was too busy playing his sax for Hollyweird. And sticking cigars where they were never meant to be.

What other terrorist attacks happened while Bush was in office that didn't happen under Clinton's or Obama's?
Rich. Truly a marvel to read as usual...

Everything and anything bad somehow the fault of any POTUS not Republican.

Anything and everything good somehow not possible from other than a Republican.

Careful! Your very impressive level of objectivity is showing again!
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Old 12-28-2016, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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And neither do you, no matter how much you want to push your own narrative.
I don't have to do anything. The narrative is already there. The Berlin attacker didn't drive his truck through the local flea market. He chose a venue specifically celebrating Christmas. Do you STILL need a hint as to what is happening?
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Old 12-28-2016, 10:29 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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I don't have to do anything. The narrative is already there. The Berlin attacker didn't drive his truck through the local flea market. He chose a venue specifically celebrating Christmas. Do you STILL need a hint as to what is happening?
Largely because there was a large gathering of people in one place. Even godking Trump dislikes this theory.
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Old 12-28-2016, 10:42 AM
 
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I don't have to do anything. The narrative is already there. The Berlin attacker didn't drive his truck through the local flea market. He chose a venue specifically celebrating Christmas. Do you STILL need a hint as to what is happening?
We all know, or surely should by now, it really doesn't matter the location or occasion...

We've got 9/11 to consider, the Boston Marathon, pretty much anywhere a terrorist can kill as many people as possible for whatever their demented reasons. Good news, despite the FBI warning about religious gatherings this season, seems there are not as many terrorists all over the world that might commit a terrorist act, because there sure were lots of opportunities yet few incidents. Knock on wood...

What to make of that? I'm not sure, but maybe the threat is not enough to keep most people from living their lives as they normally would/should. We're more likely to be killed or injured in a car accident, but even still, we keep driving...
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